• GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    For years now we’ve sorta settled on the word “vibes” to explain a kind of felt-but-unseen aspect of our lives. At times it felt like that word was the only way to explain this weird emotional energy that was crackling through the air.

    Turns out the reason for that emotional supercharge? Everybody is baby.

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    If there’s any country that has managed to figure out a means of completely emotionally and intellectually stunting their population to keep them permanently at the intellectual level of a 12 year old, it’s the US.

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      I don’t know why exactly but your comment made me realize 6th graders here are 11. And for us 11yo are the childish pricks, not 12.

      just like 6ft and 1,80m. Not the same at all, but equivalent.

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    You don’t want to negotiate with your enemies unless they surrender unconditionally in advance? Of course you don’t, you’re 12.

    You don’t want to build transit because big car goes vroom-vroom? Of course you don’t, you’re 12.

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    Two of my friends have said that they “just want some land and grow some vegetables” which also comes off as more than a bit misanthropic. It’s such a weird fantasy that suburban Americans have.

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      There is a certain satisfaction which comes from doing work like cutting a fallen tree into logs, moving the logs, cutting them into firewood, and reaping the full fruits of your unalienated labor. Aside from whatever fantasies the suburban fascists have in their head about “living off the land” or achieving the platonic ideal of individualism.

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      I used to work a farm back in my 20s.

      It is hard fucking work. On your knees for hours weeding, and picking off insects (everyone wants organic, free-range corn but has zero fucking idea how to grow a weed, let alone what it takes to keep the corn loopers at bay). Sunburnt. Dirty. Get used to bruised fruits, sub par yields, and on and on and on.

      Not to mention, the real estate required to raise your family on all those organic veggies. A traditional suburban 60x120 lot might grow enough, if you’re really efficient. No row gardens, you’re doing square foot gardening or something like that.

      It is a daydream, by the same fellas who drive their urban bro-dozer to the office for their 9-5 job in chinos. Fucking LARPers.

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        most of them want the marie antoinette experience, to be in a position where they can have the parts of small scale farming that they think is/will be fun, but it doesn’t matter if they fuck it up because they are financially secure and they can just go to the grocery store

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          It’s this. They dream of having what is essentially a side hustle that conforms to an escapist fantasy that conveniently nests within their current ideology. It’s the maximum level that they can “escape” the rat race of the rest of reality but if they fuck up they can still reintegrate like you pointed out ala the grocery store or using their primary income to offset the losses. Hell, a lot of these will probably just be vanity projects of one spouse where they probably get burnout once they realize how much work it takes to do it themselves. If they really did get that land watch how many of them would just eat the losses to have a big fucking yard because it’s not their real source of income. In a generation they’d turn 40 acres and a mule into golf courses and subdivisions.

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        Excuse YOU, I’m amazing at growing weeds! Pro tip for the newbs: let weeds come to seed, then mow them in frustration. Guaranteed huge yield

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        I think it comes from some type of yeoman farmer/farmstead idyll and white fear of cities. Just like the “I’ve gotta keep a weapon for protection in my gated community” it feels like it’s more of a power fantasy and wanting to more fully control their lives.

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        Ive met folks who moved to the country to do organic farming, they had one of the following:

        -a focus on cash crops like lavender, saffron or oyster mushrooms

        -a secret grow op

        -a tech worker girlfriend

        -rich parents

        Farming is not profitable and only the government or shenanigans can make it a living

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      My dad has a cabin in Appalachia and I won’t lie being there by myself are some of my best memories. I think some of it is my life is very loud, I work retail so people are constantly screaming at me, my parents are narcissists who are constantly screaming at me, most of my partners were short tempered so they always screamed at me. Nobody screams at me in the woods. Maybe I am a bit of a misanthrope, I don’t know.

      I’m not delusional about being able to live totally off the grid there though. If nothing else the soil sucks.

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      I had a couple paragraphs of what amounted to trauma-dumping that I’ll spare you, but it’s my inclination to believe that it’s not always misanthropy but just alienation from a hollow, cruel, and ugly collection of circumscribed commercial transactions and loneliness calling itself a society, leading to people just wanting space because they aren’t taught how to cope except by being an atom in the void. I understand this less with people who have friends, though.

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      Its that they want somewhere green and quiet, which our cities should be but aren’t. They dont want community because theyve never had it and dont know to want it. But they have been to a farm before, maybe for Christmas or Halloween

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      I think about it a lot, although in my fantasy I spend 90% of my time cleaning and maintaining solar panels which is a skill I actually have.

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    honestly public education is not enough, we need public reeducation. similar to how you need to retake your driver’s license every few years we should just make everyone do their high school exams again every few years. when you realise how fucked up boomers are because the last time they got any sort of education was back in 1960s and 1970s you’ll never be the same again.

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      Where do you live that you need to retake a driving exam to maintain your licence? I swear, the drivers near me don’t even know how to stay in one lane.

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        you only need to take an eye exam if “much time has not passed” but I’ll be damned if i know how much time is too much. you need to renew your licence every 10 years and for the first time there’s no need for redoing your test but the second or third time it’s just up to whoever you have to talk to.

        also drivers here are unbelievably shit i wish their only problem was not staying in one lane.

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      You don’t want to get shots and are making up some convoluted logic? Of course you are buddy, you’re 12.

      Democrats are bloodthirsty communists in charge of every institution because they’re not doing exactly what you want? You’re 12.

      As said earlier, yeah it fits (almost shockingly well), because this country is populated by a litany of intellectually and emotionally inhibited adults.