The PRC is the biggest economy in the world by PPP and is beating the west in many metrics while the west is falling in those same metrics, and the PRC is socialist. Capitalism’s decay compels the rise of socialism.
This is the part I would disagree with. I don’t think history has a foreseeable trajectory. I don’t think anything is inevitable. Saying otherwise is giving too much credit to narrative.
Nothing is inevitable, no, but the laws of capitalism docompel socialism. Centralization of markets into fewer and fewer hands naturally prepares the foundations for collectivized and planned production.
Man I don’t see that being true at all. From my perspective, it makes fascism, oligarchy, and authoritarianism the much more likely outcomes after capitalism decays away. You’re assuming that the workers gaining class consciousness is inevitable. Centralized industry is just fruit ripe for the picking by a proletariat uprising. I really doubt thats how it will go down.
Not really, fascism is something that happens to capitalism in crisis and isn’t sustainable. Oligarchy is similar. As for “authoritarianism,” all states are, even worker-owned ones, what matters is which class is exerting its authority. It doesn’t need everyone to magically gain class consciousness, it’s economically compelled.
The PRC is the biggest economy in the world by PPP and is beating the west in many metrics while the west is falling in those same metrics
Yes
And the PRC is socialist.
Yes but only sort of. The PRC as still ton of social inequalities, a ton of billionaires and many things I would consider basics in a socialist society like free education still are present. If anything they seem to keep getting more and more capitalist as time go on. I agree that the progress of China over the last few decades is still a huge win for socialism but I don’t see the death of capitalism you seem to be suggesting any time soon
Socialism isn’t equalitarianism, it’s the workers collectively directing society, made firm by public ownership being the principle aspect. This is true, for China, and they are in the later parts of the primary stage of socialism, as shown here:
Capitalism globally rests on US Imperialism, and as that’s dying the wheels of history are turning forward.
I wanna live in whatever world you’re talking about. It sure feels to me like fascism is overtaking capitalism.
Fascism is capitalism
The PRC is the biggest economy in the world by PPP and is beating the west in many metrics while the west is falling in those same metrics, and the PRC is socialist. Capitalism’s decay compels the rise of socialism.
This is the part I would disagree with. I don’t think history has a foreseeable trajectory. I don’t think anything is inevitable. Saying otherwise is giving too much credit to narrative.
Nothing is inevitable, no, but the laws of capitalism do compel socialism. Centralization of markets into fewer and fewer hands naturally prepares the foundations for collectivized and planned production.
Man I don’t see that being true at all. From my perspective, it makes fascism, oligarchy, and authoritarianism the much more likely outcomes after capitalism decays away. You’re assuming that the workers gaining class consciousness is inevitable. Centralized industry is just fruit ripe for the picking by a proletariat uprising. I really doubt thats how it will go down.
Not really, fascism is something that happens to capitalism in crisis and isn’t sustainable. Oligarchy is similar. As for “authoritarianism,” all states are, even worker-owned ones, what matters is which class is exerting its authority. It doesn’t need everyone to magically gain class consciousness, it’s economically compelled.
Yes
Yes but only sort of. The PRC as still ton of social inequalities, a ton of billionaires and many things I would consider basics in a socialist society like free education still are present. If anything they seem to keep getting more and more capitalist as time go on. I agree that the progress of China over the last few decades is still a huge win for socialism but I don’t see the death of capitalism you seem to be suggesting any time soon
Socialism isn’t equalitarianism, it’s the workers collectively directing society, made firm by public ownership being the principle aspect. This is true, for China, and they are in the later parts of the primary stage of socialism, as shown here:
Capitalism globally rests on US Imperialism, and as that’s dying the wheels of history are turning forward.
Does anyone know if Francis Fukuyama is doing ok?