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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 天前

Charlie Kirk’s death has ignited a war over Israel on the right, and the Israel lobby is worried

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Charlie Kirk’s death has ignited a war over Israel on the right, and the Israel lobby is worried

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 天前
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The battle over Charlie Kirk’s legacy continues with conservatives’ changing views on Israel at the heart of it. The Israel lobby is shaken, and polls suggest a political “earthquake” may be taking place.
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    this is basically all due to some imaginary change of heart on kirk’s part and the resultant conspiracies, right? what a bunch of fucking dweebs

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      right-wingers are going to be making up a bunch of conspiracy theories no matter what, so it’s better that the target is Israel and not random trans people.

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        The target is, in large part, Jews rather than Israel, as can be seen in the “coverage” from one of the biggest proponents of this line, Candace Owens.

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        Interesting they’re trying the “woke right” counternarrative

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      That, and “israel” instantly stating “WE DIDN’T DO IT :^)” before the body was cold

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        Pissrael benefits from planting the ‘we did it’ conspiracy seed: it can make people believe the Mossad is all powerful thereby scaring public figures into not speaking against them, and by increasing anti-Semitism in the US and elsewhere abroad which can make Jewish people feel unsafe to whit pissrael offers themselves as a (not actually)safe haven for them to move to increasing there tax base and conscription pool.

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        When does a corpse turn cold?

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          It’s driven by convection, so it depends on the heat of the corpse relative to the heat of the surrounding environment, along with the physical condition of the body itself. Assuming an average male body mass, 98.6 degrees F internal temperature, a room temperature of 75 degrees F, and a basically intact corpse wearing light clothing, I looked it up and algor mortis takes about 22 hours to complete. This also assumes normal humidity and no wind.

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            the-more-you-know

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          Usually after the IOF extracts the reproductive material from fallen male combatants

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          Kirk was pretty cold in life, so his death probably instead warmed him up for a few seconds

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            Heat is stored in the balls

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            His neck definitely got pretty warm for a few seconds at least

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          idk, it’s just a saying

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      OK but their videos saying they definitely didn’t kill Kirk has a lot of people asking questions already answered by their videos.

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        i need a way to not believe either side

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      He said something critical of Israel shortly before he died and then got sniped solidly. Lord help me I forget what the clip was - but I think a change of heart is a good way to describe it in form. In magnitude it might be too much because I didn’t exactly see him decrying the evils of genocide.

      The conspiracies were from things like having that old guy claim to have done it, finding a rifle that the guy wasn’t seen leaving the roof with, and shit like that. Israel’s involvement as a scapegoat came from antisemitism, Netenyahu immediately speaking on it, Netty claiming it wasn’t Israel, and Israel’s history of doing shit.

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      i actually think china had him killed, because right before it happened he made a video talking about how china strayed from the true path of marxism and has been corrupted by capitalism since the dengist reforms

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      Nethanyu held 3 speeches reiterating it wasnt him. Bgood on you to fight his battle…

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