In an interview, the German chancellor said he believes the ban is 'wrong,' as Germany's auto giants struggle to stay competitive against Chinese electric carmakers.
Sounds like German automotive is still not learning that they’ll be irrelevant if they keep kicking the can down the road. Do it, China isn’t going to wait.
If you ever visitied a country lacking an own car lobby - no, getting rid of your domestic car lobby does not make cities livable. You need politics actually centered on the common good.
German cities already have pretty good public transport and density. That is the actually expensive bit. You pretty much have to just have to get rid of cars in some areas, remove parking lots and lanes and add some bike lanes. Even that is slowly happening in most cities. If you weaken the car lobby, then you could get some very quick massive improvements. Just look at what Paris is doing as an example, but maybe not quite as quick and radical.
German automotive is learning, and excelling. Porsche and Mercedes have huge electric programs, and outshine everyone else in the west. Especially at self-driving, they have the only full self driving cars, which Tesla cannot replicate.
So, they’re lying. Common sense check? China’s cars are better than Germany’s. Yeah, that’s bullshit.
Doesn’t matter if you have to pay 100.000 Euros for such a car and you can get a china one for 35.000… people vote with their wallet and fact is, not many have that much money laying around
there’s now plenty of European EVs around the €20 000 mark that are good enough, same as the Chinese.
There’s going to be plenty of Chinese cars in Europe, same as Japanese or Korean, but this notion peddled by some people that the European brands are going to disappear is just moronic.
You can get here a Renault 5 for €16 726 right now, although that’s a special offer and will go back to 20 something soon enough.You also have the eC3 which is selling for €19 654 right now.
The Spring is a rebadged Chinese car. There are no 20k€ electric cars brand new that are built in Europe. Renault plans to sell the cheaper version of the Renault 5 for more.
Sounds like German automotive is still not learning that they’ll be irrelevant if they keep kicking the can down the road. Do it, China isn’t going to wait.
As a German I welcome that. It finally kills the pro car lobby in Germany and we get the cities we actually should have in the first place.
Munich is making good progress on cycle lanes! ☺
Most German cities do, but it would be much easier and faster with a weaker opposition.
If you ever visitied a country lacking an own car lobby - no, getting rid of your domestic car lobby does not make cities livable. You need politics actually centered on the common good.
German cities already have pretty good public transport and density. That is the actually expensive bit. You pretty much have to just have to get rid of cars in some areas, remove parking lots and lanes and add some bike lanes. Even that is slowly happening in most cities. If you weaken the car lobby, then you could get some very quick massive improvements. Just look at what Paris is doing as an example, but maybe not quite as quick and radical.
Oh, they did learn their lesson. They can do whatever they want, they will always be saved by the government.
German automotive is learning, and excelling. Porsche and Mercedes have huge electric programs, and outshine everyone else in the west. Especially at self-driving, they have the only full self driving cars, which Tesla cannot replicate.
So, they’re lying. Common sense check? China’s cars are better than Germany’s. Yeah, that’s bullshit.
Doesn’t matter if you have to pay 100.000 Euros for such a car and you can get a china one for 35.000… people vote with their wallet and fact is, not many have that much money laying around
there’s now plenty of European EVs around the €20 000 mark that are good enough, same as the Chinese. There’s going to be plenty of Chinese cars in Europe, same as Japanese or Korean, but this notion peddled by some people that the European brands are going to disappear is just moronic.
Which ones?
The one I know is Dacia Spring, which has very little range and 1 NCAP star.
Others start around 30k.
You can get here a Renault 5 for €16 726 right now, although that’s a special offer and will go back to 20 something soon enough.You also have the eC3 which is selling for €19 654 right now.
Holy Molly, where do you live? I see Renaults 5 for 27.5k and eC3 from 23k.
Southern Europe.
The Spring is a rebadged Chinese car. There are no 20k€ electric cars brand new that are built in Europe. Renault plans to sell the cheaper version of the Renault 5 for more.
“Chinese” one. what is “china one”?
It’s the local currency in the PRC, but that’s not important right now.
local currency in china is “china one”?
Yuan - western pronunciation makes it sound like one.