President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    I’m just surprised that people think Carney, our prime minister, should antagonize Trump, who is currently master and chief of one of the largest, if not the largest military force in the world, over his stance on trans people. And to do it when he’s there for trade talks.

    I’m just surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit, when the purpose of his visit is to negotiate trade on behalf of our entire country.

    I’m not sure why anyone thinks Carney’s priority should be arguing with Trump over trans people, when we currently have a trade war going on, that can easily devolve into an actual war…

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      Yeah I want our allies to stand up as much as the next trans person but I don’t envy Carney.

      Our mission right now is to survive, I won’t be sad if Carney doesn’t want to start WWIII over us.

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      I’m not sure why he’s wasting time on that orange turd. He should be getting the rebuild of our lost industries going and telling the americans to GTFO and eat dirt at this point. Stengthen ties with EU and Mexico now.

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        I wish we could do that. The biggest problem with doing so is oil. There is no continuous pipeline from Alberta to eastern Canada that doesn’t move through the States. If the worst happened, the biggest Canadian economies, Ontario and Quebec, would be devastated.

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          Before that oil was moved through pipelines it was moved by train, I’m sure that could be arranged to bridge some of the demand. Not perfect by any means, but it would help until we could solve the pipeline problem. At this point we need to plan for a “when” scenario.

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        2 days ago

        I’m aware that the feds have been working on more international trade with our allies in Asia/Europe/anywhere that isn’t the USA…

        I was commenting the other day to my SO that most products don’t even need to be “made in Canada” for me to want to buy them, they just need to say “not a product of the USA” and I’ll consider it a viable option to buy.

        Anything made in the USA, I try to avoid or find non-US made alternatives.

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          24 hours ago

          The hardest thing for me is to get rid of Yankee shit is digital services eg Microsoft (use it for work) & google. My next phone will be a nothing or a fair phone.

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            22 hours ago

            I agree that Microsoft and Google are difficult to get rid of.

            I haven’t yet decided what I’m going to do in this regard. Good luck friend.

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              11 hours ago

              There’s alternatives, protonmail, NorthMail, lots of non-google search engines, I need to find an alternative to google drive.

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      You’re 100% right and I agree with you wholeheartedly but there is a part of me that wishes out of moral principles someone public chastised him on this bullshit. He needs a dressing down on national television regardless of the consequences.

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        Oh, I agree, but unfortunately I think I know how that will go.

        He’ll continue to spout his bullshit and shit talk whomever gave him the dressing down, whenever he is put in front of a camera for at least a few weeks afterwards, probably calling whatever country they’re from a shithole, his supporters will buy it up and nothing will change.

        If that was done by Carney, it would just politically burn any credibility in trade negotiations, and put Canada under the gun for further punitive tariffs.

        I really really want to see someone call him out too, but I also understand why Carney wouldn’t.

        He has to be as focused on the topic at hand and stay away from any side tracked conversation, as much as he can; he’s representing so many Canadian interests and companies that he can’t take the risk. I wouldn’t want him to take on that risk.

        I can shit talk America’s tariffs all day long, and call Taco any manner of names, but at the end of the day, the (almost entirely) free trade that Canada and the USA had before now was always beneficial for both countries, and getting back to that point would be beneficial for everyone.

        We sell a lot of material to US companies, and so they make up a nontrivial amount of the GDP. We’re working really hard right now to change that, but it’s still the reality of the situation.

        Personally, I’m rooting for international trade with allies that are not the USA. That’s what I want to see. As much as I feel bad for our American neighbors who don’t support drumph, it’s up to them to rally together and fix this crap. I support them in their efforts, but more diversified international trade is only going to benefit Canada.

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      You’re “surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit”?

      Okay.

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      I’m surprised at the amount of people I’ve seen telling us regular average Joe Americans we need to fight back, exercise our 2A rights, do more than “just protest”, but then when their politicians have a chance to actually take a stand against American fascism but flop over like a wet noodle instead, they go “but but but, Amewica scawy :(”