• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 days ago

    Come up with? Did you think I was aiming for some kind of pithy comeback?

    You literally said that books are a crutch that prevent people from learning. Something an illiterate person would say.

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        5 days ago

        One could just as well argue that books / written knowledge is a crutch that prevents people from learning.

        jbloggs, could you try making this argument? I really want to see what it looks like.

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          4 days ago

          IIRC, the ancient greek philosophers took a swing at writing, claiming it would weaken memory/increase reliance on written texts to create an illusion of knowledge, plus it can’t engage in dialogue which they considered a requirement to develop true knowledge.

          IMHO, there’s some narrow merit to the arguments, but on the whole, writing has helped to democratise knowledge, and serves as an important tool in education.

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            4 days ago

            The greek philosophers are largely wrong for reasons that can be explained and given.

            Speaking requires mental work.
            Writing requires mental work.
            Reading (such that you can speak) requires mental work.
            AI use requires nothing.

            This fourth one is not like the other three. “Democratizing knowledge” has nothing to do with it.

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              It’s of course true that one can use AI to be a lazy thinker, but that does not mean that everyone (on every occasion) who uses AI is thinking lazily.

              I agree, though, that it is a risk, and risks should be managed. We are, as a species, predisposed to fast/lazy thinking. Recognizing and compensating for our own weaknesses is important.

              (edit: that reads like AI when I am drunk… apologies…)