Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, in his first remarks after being elected Wednesday afternoon, told Members of Congress that “Scripture” and “the Bible” are clear that they have been “ordained” by God.

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    If you notice someone (mostly politicians) randomly pop out of nowhere and start telling you shit you wanna hear, that lerson is lying pieace of shit trying to play you. This is a highly effective method btw.

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    And my book here (I am yet to write it but its gonna be a best seller, trust me) says he should go eat a bag of dicks

    I don’t make the rules sorry, start chomping mate

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    “I believe that Scripture, the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority.”

    Oh, so since God raised Biden to Authority that means you’re going to respect God’s plan right?

    Lol… Yeah… You’ll all continue to pay lip service to the Bible as long as it serves your purpose.

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    Does this mean he ordained the Democrats too? Does that still apply when the Republicans are the minority?

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      The French invented a wonderful device to cure sufferers of the divine right delusion:

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        Leaders claiming divinity leave the proletariat no choice but to demand proof

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    And the Constitution and its Amendments are very clear about a separation of church and state.

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        All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

        This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

        The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be Required as a Qualification To any Office or public Trust under the United States.

        Specifically, I like this line here, that was present in the third paragraph I quoted from the Constitution:

        no religious Test shall ever be Required as a Qualification To any Office or public Trust under the United States.

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t that mean that we specifically don’t care if God, Allah, Buddha, or whoever says they are supposed to be in power?

        Edit: and since we both want to be dickheads, today, why don’t you show me where it says in the Constitution to base our laws around the bible?

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          None of that says that church and state must be separate, just that there can be no religious test. There’s nothing in there barring him from saying “I think God blesses the people here”

          In fact, to really be edgy, that also doesn’t prevent the government from say donating $10B each year to some Christian church.

          To your second point, I never suggested that the Constitution says we should base our laws around the Bible.

          My only point is the oft quoted Separation of church and state is only an idea from the Jefferson papers. If you want to make sure church and state remain separate, and the new speaker doesn’t start using federal funds for his church, perhaps it’s time to actually put separation into the Constitution?

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          That’s really more a bar on state religion, that again doesn’t really prevent our new speaker from say proposing a bill that donates Federal funds to his favorite church, so long as the government isn’t in control of said church.

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      slaps a pile of Bronze Age parables about tribal conflicts on the far side of the Mediterranean that have gone through a dozen different iterative translations

      Its all crystal clear. Jesus said The American Constitution prohibits dressing outside your birth-certificate assigned gender.

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    Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.

    Barry Goldwater

    Also relevant:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1981/09/16/goldwater-lashes-religious-pressure/b1caa379-49fa-4e04-82de-dccda6f5e7f9/

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    I believe that Scripture, the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority.

    I’m not sure which would be worse: that he didn’t think this claim through to its logical conclusion, or that he did and didn’t see the problem.

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        I believe that if God gives power to certain individuals, so too can he take it away. Many systems, positions and meanings in society such as caste, authority and regulation are temporary or exist based on a certain set of justifications with a certain set of rules and boundaries. Humanity would be best to learn or perhaps be reminded that there are certain responsibilities that come with leadership, one of those is to lead by example rather than to justify their leadership by an imaginary authority alone.

        For example, if we imagine a God as a being of supernatural capabilities, awareness and intelligence, well beyond our understanding, who allows us to live our lives with a certain degree of freedom, would it not be unreasonable to believe that all our current circumstances, everything from our freedom, the truth of certain issues, down to the very matter of this universe itself as it stands is a gift?

        Just my two cents

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    What is the difference between this guy and a Taliban officer?

    I don’t care how much he enjoys talking about his favorite fairy tale novel, congress is not a book club.

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      Oh, but that’s totally different! You see, their holy book is just a bunch of heathenish drivel, whereas our holy book is the one and only god given truth! How do I know? It says so right here in my holy book!