• Blake [he/him]@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    Intentionally loud exhausts are obnoxious and selfish. As much as I dislike it, however, I’d far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance. We’re already the #3 most surveilled country in the world, only the USA and China is worse.

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      1 year ago

      Harley Davidson bikes are just noise pollution. Unlike cars they are build like this out of the factory.

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        1 year ago

        Yea to me it’s not the volume of the engine/exhaust. It’s that it’s intentionally obnoxious

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      10 months ago

      I’d far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance.

      My cognitive dissonance triggers on this point because one of the reasons I cycle is privacy. I am also firmly in the #fuckCars camp (noise, pollution, death, selfishness of people putting their convenience above lives of other people & animals). It’s hard to give a shit about car drivers having privacy. And also realize that car drivers inherently sign up to give up privacy in order to use a personal car anyway (registration, insurance, banking transactions tied to those activities and their fuel purchases, etc). The fuel purchases of car drivers feed the oil industry, which in the US feeds the war chests of republican candidates who disrespect both privacy and the environment.

      Yet people making the wise pro-privacy considerate decision to cycle are still exposed to breath car fumes, noise, and life-threatening physics (e=mc²).

      Hard to have sympathy for car drivers. Although my dissonance needle moves a bit more if these noise cams are always recording video and thus capturing all people not in cars. I don’t know if that’s the case.

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      1 year ago

      Electrics cars will make it a non issue but then we will be stuck with the surveillance. Our country is scary. No one cares.

      Having said that if you are intentionally being noisy for noisy sake there should be harder punishments. Even lose your license for a bit, it’s not a got given right to drive. You got to earn it.

      All drivers should be considerate of others

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        10 months ago

        Electrics cars will make it a non issue

        I do not see EVs replacing scooters (which are driven by lower budget commuters). A single unmuffled scooter driving through #Paris at 3am can wake up 10,000 people according to Bruitparif. And don’t forget horns. Assholes will used their horns at 3am on my street. The only thing they give a fuck about is their own convenience when their favorite parking spot is taken.

        The idea of harsh punishments works if a vehicle is continuously loud because it will eventually cross paths with a cop. So that position is fair enough. But what about horns? There’s never a cop around when horns are misused.

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            10 months ago

            I think not. But then I’m not living in a wealthy part of town. I think I’ve only seen one, ridden by a colleague. It only takes one of those little 2-stroke 50cc gas fuckers to wake up 10,000 people.

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    1 year ago

    Most motorists? Why is it only people who enjoy motoring that get a say in this? What about the rest of us?

    I don’t drive and I want them to crack down on those loud as feck vehicles, especially the dirt bike races they have regularly.

    Loud as feckin hell.

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I think the point is to show that even amongst their peers, people who love loud pipes are a minority that the majority would gladly see being stopped.

      I agree now but I once was young and had a loud pipe on my truck and on my motorcycle (always with a catalytic converter though!), I think it’s just a natural phase in the car person’s evolution… Then you’ve got a bunch of Harley riders and Dodge Ram drivers that never grow past that phase…

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      1 year ago

      Car brain headline / premise. Of course only the opinion of motorists is actually valid, you poor jaywalking peasant!

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    10 months ago

    ⚠ That article is a bit enshitified and autoplays video. Just a warning to anyone on a limited internet connection.

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      10 months ago

      Get an adblocker? Nothing automatically played with Firefox and uBlock.

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        10 months ago

        There are countless ways to implement autoplay. You apparently got lucky with one particular toolchain in one situation. Tor Browser is FF based and should not be extended by plugins (as that changes fingerprints), and TB plays whatever junk is on that page.

        Have a look at how long Google has been unable to disable autoplay (2009).

        The maker of Ungoogled Chromium made an autoplay blocker but it had so many failures he abandoned the project hoping Google would have the resources to tackle the problem.