• LughOPMA
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    9 months ago

    I’ve been following this issue (AI replacing jobs) for so many years, it’s fascinating to see it finally go mainstream. What’s especially striking to me is the bland summary at the end. It completely misses the implications of what the poll is talking about. The issue with AI and jobs is that AI as an employee will be cheaper than us. Thus, in a market-based economy we won’t be able to compete with it. As we move to AGI, which presumably will be able to do all jobs - where does this leave our current economic system?

    • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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      49 months ago

      There was a claim in the 00’s that outsourcing would eliminate jobs. Except there was still work to do fixing the outsourced code, and that was often higher level work than the initial task. Until we have real AGI we’ll have a similar situation with AI tools.

      • HubertManne
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        19 months ago

        Yeah it sorta goes both ways. I get coders who dismiss it saying they told it to give them some sort of code and it would not even compile. Right now at least its basically an alternative to a search engine but it has no way to validate its results (just like a search engine) so it lets you search a bit faster and maybe get what you need faster but you still have to work with what you get. Once the chat ai folks realize they just need to teach the systems to validate results though and its going to get exponentially better. It might even get to the point where it can simply ask for help and one human will have to manage a team of ai that do most of the more straight forward stuff.

  • @Hardeehar@lemmy.world
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    159 months ago

    So there are 25% of American people who believe that AI won’t replace jobs? That’s way more curious to me.

      • @Szymon@lemmy.ca
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        39 months ago

        Yeah it plays out for every generation. I was told to be a teacher because there’ll be a lot of retirements when I graduated. So many applicants that none gets jobs to this day.

        We told years for 10 years to be coders. Now AI is replacing those jobs.

        Long term outlook, I’d suggest to.look into careers that a machine won’t likely be able to do and maintains the health, safety, and comfort of people. Safe water, wastewater, energy supply, construction, and other similar fields will hopefully be safe against this new technological reality.

        If you agree, you’re in on the ground floor before it gets saturated from millions of people that are getting put out of work in the next little while.

        • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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          29 months ago

          Now AI is replacing those jobs.

          That’s objectively false. We’re decades away from replacement. For now they’re only good at supplementing existing software engineers.

          • @Szymon@lemmy.ca
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            -39 months ago

            I’ve already used ChatGPT to write code to automate tasks for my work, essentially eliminating a contract to someone who actually studied to do that.

            This is happening all over the world and accelerating in pace as the tools grow stronger. Not all jobs will go, but the ones that stay will be highly competitive and hard to obtain for most.

            • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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              39 months ago

              You’re just sending out code written by ChatGPT without reviewing it and validating it first? That’s a quick way to lose your job indeed.

    • SuiXi3D
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      39 months ago

      If I could afford to get the certifications and licenses required to do those jobs, I would. But I can’t.

  • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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    39 months ago

    Imagine the jobs of all those street lamp lighters and waker uppers that were gone. Such tragedy.

    • @exohuman@programming.dev
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      9 months ago

      The only reason Y2K wasn’t worse was because a shit ton of people were hired to fix it before it happened. I remember folks literally coming to my high school in the late 90s and asking students to learn COBOL so we could help. There was a huge effort to stop it before it happened.

      • @theuberwalrus@lemmy.world
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        99 months ago

        This is such a frustrating concept that so many people don’t get. It was a huge issue, that’s why it got fixed before it could cause major damage.

        My dad thinks climate change is overblown because Y2K didn’t break the world.

      • HubertManne
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        19 months ago

        eyup. I was writing reports for a database for engineers to reference for remediation.

    • pewter
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      29 months ago

      Is that what some countries call Y2K?