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Second?
The first and second happened on the same stage within 5 second of each other
And that was hardly the first…
Surely them doing the Nazis salute counts as cultural appropriation. The right-wing German should be complaining about it. They need to come up with their own salutes
Hey! That’s our thing!
Didn’t we used to do the nazi salute for the pledge of allegience before ww2? I remember reading it somewhere but also FUCK NAZIS
Tbf, it didn’t have the Nazi connotation then. It’s like how the meaning of the Swastika has changed over time. It been common in Hindu and Buddhist iconography for over a thousand years.
TBF in this case stands for “to be rational”.
AFAIK it was a reference to the “Italian Salute”, aka Mussolini, the coiner of the term fascism… So not really all that much better…
The pledge itself is already nazi bullshit.
Here’s the video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cxg3Ho4rgjg
Aka “karate chopping the Plausible Deniability right in the throat”
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You should say some of this stuff in public and see what happens to you
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So you live in a sundown town….and you’re bragging about it? Lmao I don’t have words.
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You’re a clown Talon.
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It’s true that symbols and gestures can have historical origins that predate their modern meanings. However, intent and context always matter. The Nazi salute, whether or not it had roots in an earlier Roman gesture, is now overwhelmingly associated with fascism, white supremacy, and authoritarianism. When a public figure—especially a political leader—uses a gesture that resembles it, people have every reason to question why.
Dismissing those concerns as “a stretch” ignores the reality that optics matter in politics. If a leader doesn’t want to be associated with fascist imagery, they have a responsibility to be mindful of what they do. The burden isn’t on the public to assume good intentions—it’s on the leader to avoid any association with dangerous ideologies.
As for the claim that Democrats are “closer to democratic socialism” and thus closer to Nazis, that’s a misreading of political history. The Nazis were far-right ultranationalists who used state control to consolidate power, suppress opposition, and enforce racial supremacy. Democratic socialism, on the other hand, is about expanding worker protections and social welfare within a democratic system—not authoritarian rule.
Finally, while I agree that finding common ground is valuable, pretending that ideological divides are just trivial differences overlooks the very real stakes involved. Not all disagreements are just about policy—they’re about fundamental values, including democracy itself. If one side is leaning into authoritarianism, that’s not a “both sides” issue. It’s a problem that needs to be called out.
When exactly will you start believing the reality before you rather than the one you conjure to insulate yourself from reality?
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Yeah they’re not using swastikas and fascist salutes for their religious or spiritual significance. Dragging that tired old shit out of about as brick headed as the dipshits who insist the nsp was actually socialist in any meaningful way.
Stop apologizing, just say your a fascist and wear it proudly like everyone else since it’s somehow not social suicide anymore.
Third
Man, that one was so much worse than I remembered. I thought it was just part of a wider gesture, but that heil and the wave that came afterward are clearly two different emotes
W.T.F.
Does that count as two?
Close, but trump does have his hand vertical enough to be a legitimate wave.
True, good point.
I would be honestly surprised if trump ever did it. For how much of a scumbag he is, it doesn’t seem like his style. I’m sure he’s fine with other people doing it though.Look at the bottom left.
They’re just saying it doesn’t count as two because Trump’s doesn’t really count. The one on the bottom left is absolutely a Nazi salute.
Ah my bad, missed the comment asking if that counted as two.
Ya know…as much as I hated Bush in his day, he was never a nazi. I called him a LOT of things over the years…but I never remember calling him a nazi.
How the fuck are we living in a timeline where a president who used a terrorist attack as justification for invading countries that never had anything to do with it, is now looked at as “he wasn’t so bad…”
Bush is a war criminal, lied to the American people, and contributed to the pathway that created trumpism.
He’s not a Nazi. But he’s not a good guy either.
And he is an avid painter. Wait…
His grandpa was though.
https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfather-helped-hitlers-rise-to-power
And his dad HW ran the CIA for a while.
Pardoned a good number of Iran Contra CIA people when he was President.
… And seems to have been working for or with the CIA for many years before he became director.
https://www.salon.com/2019/01/25/the-real-reason-the-cia-loved-george-h-w-bush_partner/
Zapata Oil was run by HW Bush… and very much seems to have been a CIA front company, assisting with many ‘kinetic’ operations in Cuba and Latin America.
… And if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, a whole bunch of people connected to Watergate, the Bay of Pigs… and JFK’s assasination… are also linked to Zapata Oil…
… and HW himself was noted by J Edgar Hoover as working for the CIA, in 1963, way before HW ever admitted he worked for/with the CIA, in an official FBI memo investigating the assasination.
https://headlineusa.com/records-implicate-george-h-w-bush-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/11/us/63-fbi-memo-ties-bush-to-intelligence-agency.html
Yeah, the preceding years laundering his reputation and presidency has been maddening. His war crimes, foreign policy on essentially everything, domestic policy on education, carceral systems, tax reform, and the border should have him in solitary at The Hague for the rest of his life. The man is truly a monster, and walks among the nazis today. He’s still a republican, so whether or not he’s a nazi is perhaps an academic debate only.
He paved the path for a Nazi
He was a fascist. He was always a fascist and his “War on Terror” laid the ground work for our current situation.
His presidency is when I first saw the Signs of Fascism.
Yup, it’s when patriots and flags on cars took a nasty turn. Let’s not forget about Dock Cheney either. O matter what his daughter has tried to do to change that name, Bush and Dick belong in the Hauge.
Trump belongs in an orange jumpsuit and Musk belongs in South Africa, locked in a compound hiding from the world.
So you just aren’t aware of the “PATRIOT [sic] Act” at all, huh?
Bush signing that into law was the moment I knew Bin Laden had won.
Bush lied about WMDs to kill millions of people and steal their oil. He is not Hitler but he is not far. It will take more than a sieg to surpass Bush.
Let’s be real, the best part of Bush Junior was Sam Rockwell playing him in Vice.
What about Matt Stone and Trey Parker’s classic That’s My Bush?
All I remember from that show is the woman in the maid outfit saying she was in a K-hole
That woman is Marcia Wallace.
Thank you for the clarification, SatansMaggotyCumFart.
Fuck off sloppy steve
Somebody should tell him that if he’s going to be a Nazi then he needs to have acquire a snazzy sense of style. He looks like a random old man down the sports bar.
The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
My dearly departed gramps would agree. Man was on the ground walking across France and Germany on a mission to free concentration camps. He wouldn’t describe it in any further detail than that, ever, but he would shut down any murmur of racism. Silence a room shut down.
We lack that now which is why hx is coming back around again.
I think it’s interesting* that as soon as everyone with a firsthand account of Nazis dies, Nazism comes roaring back. It’s as though there’s no generational memory in society.
*not to imply it’s good, it’s horrifying.
It’s so sad that we are going to get this costly lesson again. It would be better if the guillotines came out, rather than panzer tanks.
This was a nazi salute, or at least a reference to it, you can obviously see it. However, and this is where it becomes slightly problematic…
Is it enough of a nazi salute to not work in their favor? We can easily compare Elons salute with a nazi one, just show it side by side with an actual one. But this one is obviously (you can see it on his face) meant to reference it, but it is not as explicit. The problem is that when it is called out, it is just another case of “the woke left screaming that everyone that disagrees with them is a nazi”.
I have no idea how we should handle shit like this.
If it looks like an intentional nazi salute then it is a nazi salute. No overthinking needed.
It was enough of a Nazi salute for the head of France’s far-right party, who are Nazis, to cancel his planned speech.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/21/steve-bannon-jordan-bardella-nazi-salute-cpac
I was hesitant at first, but like. What the hell else is he doing? He isn’t gesturing to emphasize something he’s saying, he isn’t waving at anyone, he isn’t addressing the crowd. Literally the only thing it can reasonably be is a heil.
I’m usually not a fan of zero tolerance policies, but I make an exception for Nazi shit.
You are probably right, I am just not sure how to react to stuff like this anymore
And thats the idea. Burn you out so you just lie there until they have finished. Like a good little victim.
Baring the opportunity to just stab the assailant: The solution of course is to make a repeatable pattern of defiance which costs you nothing of your mental capacity but makes a difference if done at scale.
- Post about it “this is what you voted for”
- make a list of nazi controlled companies you will never buy from again unless its life or death and share the list
- reframe your wording and thinking: the us is a failed state, a fascist state, ruled by nazis, educate yourself on what actually happened in the third reich and educate others, start hanging the us flag upside down, use suggestive avatars on social media (careful with your surroundings).
This all in itself wont change anything but at scale it will shift the public eye and make things better, bit by bit.
The difference is Bannon knows what he’s doing, while Ellonie is a moron.
Bannon did it just half-heartedly enough to throw doubt into it when asked. Elon tried his best.
My heart goes out to the American people
That shit isn’t contained in the US unfortunately. As much as the right say that they are against globalism and globalists like Soros they have been manipulated by the biggest globalist. The entire international swing towards fascism in the West has been orchestrated by Putin. He is the New World Order. We will be seeing more Nazis take power across the world.
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Yeah, I’m pretty scared
kind of a meme, because that’s what they’re claiming the gesture means.
also kinda not.
stay safe and organise.
Feel like we need present day German advice rn.
German here.
This is pretty much exactly how Hitler got to power.
You’re welcomeI wonder how he’s feeling right now, watching what’s happening up on earth. His old enemies, who destroyed him 80 years ago, are now wololoing themselves to his side. Dude must be confused.
For all the shit Putin did, Nazi salutes are not part of it I think?
Bannon is white fucking trash anyway. Not just saying that because he looks like human excrement but because he has the personality of a roasted maggot.
His physical appearance suggests alcohol.
He looks like he smells like one too.
There’s only one kind of good nazi. We should strive to make them all like that.
Why exactly are we repeating history
This is what happens when you systematically destroy the education system.
At least 3rd
