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OpenAI & Anthropic have both made calls for Chinese AI models to be banned in the US on national security grounds. While it is true countries have reason to distrust other countries’ tech, I doubt this is the real reason they are upset.

Their big problem is that Open-Source AI annihilates their chances of succeeding as businesses. Silicon Valley’s model of VC funding is to bet on many small start-ups, hoping one becomes a ‘unicorn’ - a multi-billion dollar company (like Google, Meta, etc) able to dominate an industry and rake in hundreds of billions of dollars.

Even if they succeed in banning Chinese Open-Source - does this mean they’ll become unicorns? I doubt it. The Chinese Open-Source AI models are superior to theirs. Most of the rest of the world will use them, and the real AI innovation will happen in the rest of the world. Meanwhile Americans will make do with the second-best AI, that can only survive when it gets the best banned.

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    19 hours ago

    Deepseek is FOSS, hosted on github. Anybody can download and modify it however they want to, fork the project and give it a new name

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      9 hours ago

      Stop calling that open source. It’s an insult to what the movement is all about.

      Open model or free weight at most.

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        8 hours ago

        It’s released under the MIT license. Deepseek’s marketing literature says “distill and commercialize freely”.

        The code has been modified already and I have run one of these versions on my aging hardware.

        You can go to github and read the code license AND the model license yourself.

        You can read more about it at Contractnerds.com, or there are lots of Reddit threads about it. Indeed, Contract Nerds make the point that Facebook’s Llama is open weight while Deepseek is much freer to use

        So AFAICT, you’re just completely wrong.

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          8 hours ago

          It’s released under the MIT license

          There are 5 Python scripts with the MIT license. The huge binary blobs are not included. You know, binary, the thing that is by definition and by its content NOT open-source. Or Maybe Windows is open-source too?

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            7 hours ago

            Yes, you can just run their models on other software, which is also open source.

            I guess you’re talking about the Deepseek online product? That’s NOT FOSS, AFAIK