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    Nope. They are kind to strangers and showed how to be a good person

    Okay, stop. You keep pretending as if being nice in personal interactions somehow overrides stuff like being a capitalist and living off of exploitation of billions.

    Always supportive of social programs

    Like destroying schools.

    Social programs under capitalism are a bandaid. Actual implementations of stuff like guaranteed housing require extremely rich people like him to not exist.

    They. Would help.

    Okay, how many homes have they given to the homeless for free and with no strings attached?

    He employed thousands of people in my dying coal region in storage warehousing

    And?

    Might not have paid super well but for the region

    So, he is extremely rich, and decides to underpay those people by utilising their desperation. And you say that this person is your friend.

    He would give homes to the churches of multiple denominations

    That’s bad. I hope you understand why giving homes to organisations that have a history of supporting and participating in colonialism, slavery, genocide, general infliction of harm to people, especially LGBT people, women, and non-white people because the fiction they believe in supposedly dictates so is bad.
    Going to note that he did not give those homes to the people who actually needed that.

    No the cities closed the schools because they out grew them

    ‘Outgrew’ them how? Did children stop being born there?

    Going to also note that you are yet to address how it is okay for him to live off of colonial and capitalist exploitation of billions.

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        He used his football skills to go to an Ivy League school

        HAHAHAHA.
        Why the f are football skills even valued for admissions to universities in the US? What relation do they have to academic efforts?
        Nonsensical society of bloodthirsty monsters.

        Also, not sure how that is relevant to this ‘friend’ of yours supposedly being good.

        He saw all these old industries collapsing. Bought their old buildings and turned them into a data storage company. Started with microfilm storage up to digital management in the 00’s

        Not seeing anything that would paint him in a good light here.

        Never really asked for much back

        ‘This rich person never asked for much back when raking up massive profits’.

        because he made a living in an honest way

        You are contradicting yourself. You just said that he owned companies, but now you are saying that he made a living ‘in an honest way’.

        He was a stand up dude

        You are contradicting yourself again. You previously said that he owned companies and used other people’s labour for his own gain.

        Dude persevered through that traged

        Ah yes, the ‘tragedy’ of becoming slightly less rich.

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            They destroyed all the fucking unions with their bullshit

            The entities most involved with union-busting are the extremely rich people like your friend and NATO states.

            They hollowed out the American voice of the worker

            I’m sorry, but this is extremely silly, especially considering that it is public knowledge that extremely rich people like your friend have always made union-busting efforts.

            If you ignore that part about America. You missed out what happened to the unions in America. Teamsters were transporting heroin for the mob

            HAHAHA.
            Not that I am a fan of your national chauvinist unions, but this accusation is extremely silly when extremely rich people like your friend have done stuff like use strike breakers.

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        Dude I wouldn’t say dudes a good dude if he wasn’t

        Well, he is literally underpaying his workers because he knows he can get away with that due to their desperation, and his lifestyle is built upon immiseration of billions, and yet, you do claim that he is somehow good.

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        He helps black families in a region where the Klan used to run people out of the Appalachia’s. He employed hundreds of minority individuals and made many VP’s of his company before DEI was a thing

        You do realise that what you are saying is that he doesn’t even do the minimum of what the ruling class (which includes extremely rich people like him) is supposedly expected to do (provide people with employment, housing, healthcare, etc.) but that he is somehow good.
        Like, if this was the extent of a government’s effort, would that be acceptable? Why is this acceptable of the people who hold economies of the world in a chokehold?

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            When I was a teen. I was making more money working there than I made ten years after

            Okay, and?

            He paid well for the region but it wasn’t a lot

            So, he chose to not pay a lot because he could get away with it due to the conditions your community was already forced into. And?

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                I wouldn’t say he under paid

                You already did say that he did not pay a lot.

                He could have paid the minimum wage but he didn’t

                And I could have been assaulting random people, but I don’t do that. Heap laurels upon me now.

                The one job I had 15 years later in the same town paid me 3$/hr to be a server and busboy

                Going to note that you being paid so little is a consequence of extremely rich people like your friend existing as a class in your economy.

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                    This is rather silly.

                    Capitalists push to have your wages be lower and lower, and you keep trying to defend them.
                    Meanwhile, we already know that their abolition produces massive improvements in the standards of living.

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                He paid 3x the minimum wage at the time

                Cool. He paid more than the extremely low minimum wage (and still did not pay much). I too don’t do the absolute worst things that I might be allowed to do. Now what?