I can assure you i’m not a Russian propagandist. You can look through my post history if you don’t believe me. I’d argue right now it’s pretty clear that the comment I’m replying to is unapologetically the propaganda here. It’s not even that I disagree with the sentiment. It’s just a bad argument for winning over folks in the US, which is full of division, and diversity of culture and opinion.
Just, like, think for even a second about who you are trying to unite against billionaires. It includes black communities, and the police who have often terrorized and weakened those communities. It includes both those who are homeless and NIMBY communities who’ve constantly lobbied to deny those homeless any type of help. It includes immigrants, and blue collar workers who’ve constantly attacked immigrants.
Regardless of whether this violence was motivated by the oppression of the ruling class, these are still actively ongoing acts of violence between working class individuals and groups. That bad blood shouldn’t be ignored. The tagline " the ruling class is our only enemy" rings hollow for those actively being attacked by other groups within the working class. The solution should not be to hand-wavingly say “let’s all just get along and unite forces”. It needs to be actively engaging with these groups, and winning people over by actually stopping the violence they experience locally.
Bad blood won’t get solved by doing nothing either. People need a common goal. Fighting against billionaires is one billions of people can get behind regardless of other demographics. It doesn’t solve the bad blood and it doesn’t erase identities it simply reminds us we can be allies against the larger issue first.
It is a catch-22 to solve the bad blood you mention before going after the billionaires because the billionaires will continue causing more bad blood and more division in the meantime. As showcased by Trump, decades of building torn down in 3mo. Doesn’t matter that he decreased taxes for the rich or openly manipulates the market for himself and other rich bastards he’s convinced 1/3 of America that its all worth it to hurt sexual and/or racial minorities. By the time you fix one divide he’s created another 5.
We’re not going to vote our way out of this. Violent revolution should not be the first step, however working within the system has done fuck all to stop the accumulation of wealth at the top. There is no war but class war means all of us that aren’t billionaires are in this together.
I can assure you i’m not a Russian propagandist. You can look through my post history if you don’t believe me. I’d argue right now it’s pretty clear that the comment I’m replying to is unapologetically the propaganda here. It’s not even that I disagree with the sentiment. It’s just a bad argument for winning over folks in the US, which is full of division, and diversity of culture and opinion.
Just, like, think for even a second about who you are trying to unite against billionaires. It includes black communities, and the police who have often terrorized and weakened those communities. It includes both those who are homeless and NIMBY communities who’ve constantly lobbied to deny those homeless any type of help. It includes immigrants, and blue collar workers who’ve constantly attacked immigrants.
Regardless of whether this violence was motivated by the oppression of the ruling class, these are still actively ongoing acts of violence between working class individuals and groups. That bad blood shouldn’t be ignored. The tagline " the ruling class is our only enemy" rings hollow for those actively being attacked by other groups within the working class. The solution should not be to hand-wavingly say “let’s all just get along and unite forces”. It needs to be actively engaging with these groups, and winning people over by actually stopping the violence they experience locally.
Bad blood won’t get solved by doing nothing either. People need a common goal. Fighting against billionaires is one billions of people can get behind regardless of other demographics. It doesn’t solve the bad blood and it doesn’t erase identities it simply reminds us we can be allies against the larger issue first.
It is a catch-22 to solve the bad blood you mention before going after the billionaires because the billionaires will continue causing more bad blood and more division in the meantime. As showcased by Trump, decades of building torn down in 3mo. Doesn’t matter that he decreased taxes for the rich or openly manipulates the market for himself and other rich bastards he’s convinced 1/3 of America that its all worth it to hurt sexual and/or racial minorities. By the time you fix one divide he’s created another 5.
BuT MUh ViolEnT RevOlUtiOn!!!
Well said. Some of the people who post here are just nuts. Or edgy teens. Keep fighting the good fight for actually having nuance and common sense.
We’re not going to vote our way out of this. Violent revolution should not be the first step, however working within the system has done fuck all to stop the accumulation of wealth at the top. There is no war but class war means all of us that aren’t billionaires are in this together.