This implies we all want to go to disney as if it is the ultimate goal to work towards. I’d rather go to the ZOO.
I have friends that used to go to Disney 2-3 times a year. They did not live in Florida. They used to spend so much money to go multiple times a year.
They are now declaring bankruptcy.
Going to Disney is just keeping up with the Joneses.
It is not just Disney, vacations in general for a family are very expensive but a lot of people are doing them. Granted some of thwm prolly have the money but I bet most don’t but they do it.
I don’t understand why people obsess over vacations so much. Such a weird “consumer” behaviour
+4. rents out the entire park for an exclusive vacations
I would say: Owns Disney
How much of Disney and where private jet
I went to Disney once and I have to say I was not impressed. I mean once you went and saw it why would you go back?
They get new rides, new installments, new exclusive merch, etc., but you’re right for the most part.
Same. I went about 25 years ago when my kids were little, and I still think it’s too soon to go back.
I would go back with my kids.
Also, typhoon lagoon is very repeatable.
Eh, this doesn’t quite hold up. Grandparents are retired boomers in Florida so you get to go all summer, but your parents are living paycheck to paycheck.
I don’t think this works. I know DINKs and single people who work normal jobs (and a shitload of overtime) and go to Disney like six times a year because they’re total Disney freaks. Like, adult Disney people who get Disney tattoos and shit. It’s a whole vibe.
No kids and they choose to go to Disney? You could go to any number of foreign cities or beautiful beaches and they choose Disney? Wtf?
Why go to any number of foreign cities when you can visit everything in Epcot?
/s
Literally what someone I knew said one time when I criticized them for going to Disney a bajillionth time instead of literally anywhere else in the world.
And there I was debating whether or not an \s was really needed.
Tell me about it. I think it’s bonkers.
Disney is for the real elites who also enjoy surf and turf to signal their rank.
DINKs are already an entirely separate class tbh.
Very expensive. Hwuh huh.
Is that Doug Funnie’s neighbor?
Yup!
Is that when Doug broke his grill?
Fuck this noise. The only classes that matter are the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland, and everyone else. Quibbling over whose shit sandwich is bigger is just dividibg ourselves for their benefit.
This.
50% of the economy in the US is controlled by the “Whenever the fuck I want” class.
“Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, but give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.”
― Jim Trotter
This is being attributed to Jim Trotter, but I can’t find a source for this claim. I can’t even find when he is supposed to have said it…
It was definitely said in Mr. Robot (2015), and it was definitely not said in the movie The Skulls (2000), no one in that entire movie ever says “bank”, despite what some people on reddit claim.According to this blog post, the oldest tweet is from 28 Nov 2011 @Bonoboism.
Maybe someone else can find a better source.
Note: I’m linking only to archives, not to either reddit or xitter.
I consider it more of a spectrum, those who are rich enough to own Disneyland on the one hand and those who are fucked the most by the system that benefits the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland on the other. Not everyone is equally fucked by the system that benefits the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland. But you’re right about the shit sandwich.
Nah there are plenty of edible rich people who aren’t rich enough to own Disney Land
The wealthy people who can’t afford to own Disneyland are closer to you than they are the people who can afford to own Disneyland.
Don’t care. They still go on the block.
Sounds like you’ve fallen for class division propaganda.
There are billionaires and not-billionaires.
The difference between a billion dollars and a million dollars is roughly a billion dollars.
That’s a great way to run out of allies. You’re closer to being homeless than a billionaire. All war is class war, however know thine enemy. There’s over 1400 billionaires in the US. That’s plenty to start with. We can start quibbling over the rest after that 1400.
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/a-clear-eyed-look-at-the-consolidation-of-a-billionaire-class/
Yes, eat some billionaires, and then give everyone left a choice: Glorious Revolution or French Revolution.
I understand what you’re trying to do with the ‘class is the only thing that matters’, but I don’t think that is going to fly well in the US, specifically and especially when trying to get groups with troubled histories between one another to work together.
Trying to unify people by ignoring or erasing their personal or communal identities and histories is not going to be effective at unification IMO.
You sound like a Russian propagandist. It’s us against billionaires trying to eat our planet. It doesn’t get more complex than that.
1 person does not get to decide how 99% of the resources are spent.
I can assure you i’m not a Russian propagandist. You can look through my post history if you don’t believe me. I’d argue right now it’s pretty clear that the comment I’m replying to is unapologetically the propaganda here. It’s not even that I disagree with the sentiment. It’s just a bad argument for winning over folks in the US, which is full of division, and diversity of culture and opinion.
Just, like, think for even a second about who you are trying to unite against billionaires. It includes black communities, and the police who have often terrorized and weakened those communities. It includes both those who are homeless and NIMBY communities who’ve constantly lobbied to deny those homeless any type of help. It includes immigrants, and blue collar workers who’ve constantly attacked immigrants.
Regardless of whether this violence was motivated by the oppression of the ruling class, these are still actively ongoing acts of violence between working class individuals and groups. That bad blood shouldn’t be ignored. The tagline " the ruling class is our only enemy" rings hollow for those actively being attacked by other groups within the working class. The solution should not be to hand-wavingly say “let’s all just get along and unite forces”. It needs to be actively engaging with these groups, and winning people over by actually stopping the violence they experience locally.
Bad blood won’t get solved by doing nothing either. People need a common goal. Fighting against billionaires is one billions of people can get behind regardless of other demographics. It doesn’t solve the bad blood and it doesn’t erase identities it simply reminds us we can be allies against the larger issue first.
It is a catch-22 to solve the bad blood you mention before going after the billionaires because the billionaires will continue causing more bad blood and more division in the meantime. As showcased by Trump, decades of building torn down in 3mo. Doesn’t matter that he decreased taxes for the rich or openly manipulates the market for himself and other rich bastards he’s convinced 1/3 of America that its all worth it to hurt sexual and/or racial minorities. By the time you fix one divide he’s created another 5.
BuT MUh ViolEnT RevOlUtiOn!!!
Well said. Some of the people who post here are just nuts. Or edgy teens. Keep fighting the good fight for actually having nuance and common sense.
We’re not going to vote our way out of this. Violent revolution should not be the first step, however working within the system has done fuck all to stop the accumulation of wealth at the top. There is no war but class war means all of us that aren’t billionaires are in this together.
Quite the non sequitur
The amazing thing to me is that Disney used to be cheap entertainment. 1955 admission was $1.10 with rides costing 10 to 35 cents. A teenager could take a date there for what they’d earn in an afternoon. Prices for movies, sporting events, and concerts were similar.
This is known as the cost disease. As manufacturing gets increasingly optimized, automated and cheap, the share of income that needs to be spent on everything else increases. For example, housing and services like live entertainment or healthcare.
cost disease. I never heard of this before.
My Uncle and his family are like this, his kids are adults now and they still go to Disney every year.
We’re Canadian. and he is a staunch opponent of the Canadian Healthcare system, He believes that because he can personally throw money at a Doctor, that everyone should be treated that way, first paid first served.
Not accurate. Plenty of broke people go to Disney regularly. I know a couple of them.
Yeah there’s the ‘goes into debt to go to disney’ crowd. That’s me.
Most of them up and move their entire lives to be within driving distance of it even when unable to afford. Disney families are something else
Fuck Disney, fuck dividing the non-super rich
There should be another Disney class. The “Lightning Pass/Stayed at a Disney Resort/going to multiple parks over several days” Class
The park fees alone are pretty expensive if you’d like to see more than just “Disneyland” and want to see EPCOT, Studios, etc. The try to ride the rides during any popular season you buy Lightning Passes for hundreds or even a thousand more per person, pay for parking over multiple days, stay at an expensive “resort” property…
Yeah. You can go “cheap” and stay off property, but it’s a whole different experience.
Is there a “went to Disney recently and didn’t like it” category?
Not anymore, you’re now declared an undesirable immigrant and will be deported.
Don’t need to go there to know I wouldn’t like this commercial overcrowded monstrosity
I consider myself well off and have never been to Disney. It just seems like a regular park with more hype.
There’s a Mickey park next to where I live (not US) but I never even considered going. I never saw it as anything other than a way to pull US tourists and children in (the two main target demographics apparently).
