The leftist Sumar and IU parties threatened to leave the government if the contract was executed, so the “socdem” PSOE has canceled the contract.
This is like the 3rd or 4th time they pretend to stop sending weapons to Israel. I bet we are going to find out in a couple of weeks that they’re still sending weapons to Israel.
True, we’ll see what actually happens.
The bloodlust of the west is genuinely incredible; as if munition supplies from the United States, Germany and the UK are somehow not sufficient to wreck the lives of countless Palestinians
No, EVERYONE has to pitch in for the slaughter, otherwise what happens? The ADL makes a snide comment on social media or some dipshit zionist deputy minister rants about how the Spanish are “moorish dogs”
The fuckin mindless insanity of fascism
It’s the other way around — Spain was purchasing bullets from Israel in order for Spain to fulfill its commitment of 2% GDP toward military spending for NATO.
They’re still wrong, but for different reasons.
That’s so fucking bleak. Israel whines to daddy USA for more bullets while selling bullets to Spain because Spain needs bullets because daddy USA isn’t funding NATO enough
An oroborous but the snake is made of bullets
Zionist need more bombs to drop on hospitals. They use lots of bombs, but not a lot of bullets because their soldiers are all little coward piss-babies who are too scared of getting taken prisoner that they don’t have infantry to be outside the tank and shoot the Hamas guys who run up and put a bomb on the tank and blow it up.
the Hamas guys who run up and put a bomb on the tank and blow it up.
One of the wildest, craziest, bravest things I have ever seen.
I’ll be dying on a morphine drip 50 years from now and I’ll turn to my grandchildren and say “did I ever tell you the story of that Hamas video of the guy who put a bomb on a tank” and they’ll cut me off and say “yes, yes gramps, and how he exposed himself a second time to shoot the bomb on the tank to detonate it. Only like a thousand times.”
And my eyes will go out of focus and I’ll smile. “Craziest fucking thing I ever saw.” And then I’ll die.
and how he exposed himself a second time to shoot the bomb on the tank to detonate it.
I’m not sure if I saw this one - got a link?
I looked it up, I guess I remembered it wrong. He runs up and places a bomb, it detonated, and then he picked up a RPG and attacked a second time.
Link is from the Telegraph but the footage is the same one I was talking about.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
This has to be some sort of financial engineering, Spain had been sending weapons to Israel for years now and now they’re buying weapons from them? This has to be money laundering.
fuck me now we have to buy grass fed cruelty free bullets? how much are those gonna cost?
i hope this leads to a socdem purge and socialists taking full power
The center left socdem party has the most seats in the coalition and leads the government, they canceled the deal so that the far-left junior partners wouldn’t pull support and collapse the government probably. No purging or taking power is happening.
And if the government did collapse and elections happened the left (divided between Sumar and Podemos) wouldn’t really gain from it, and it could very well lead to a right-wing majority.
I honestly doubt Sumar or even Podemos would have collapsed the government. I could see however IU collapsing Sumar due to this issue.
Thats so cool on the leftist parts tho. Democrats should take notes about how to weild power.
Not so much the broader democratic party (their equivalent to the PSOE in this situation), I don’t think they have anything to learn here, but there have been plenty of situations where the Squad congressmembers have been in these situations where they could play hardball and withold their votes for something not to pass, but they have never done that
This is what I meant. Thanks for providing a much clearer articulation.
Well, more like “the leftists in a party within a party within the goverment coalition”.
Still good tho.
I don’t think it’s applicable to the Dems’ case, if Sumar didn’t exist, PSOE wouldn’t have done anything.
Oh absolutely agree.
If IU didnt exist*
true
Lol, lmao
let a girl dream
:yea:
The historical moment sucks in Spain in that regard. It’s been less than 10 years since the Podemos fiasco, the tendency in Spain right now is towards the strengthening of a two-party + regional hinge parties congress. People were hopeful of change for the better with Podemos, but a mixture of inaction by the party, incapability of governing due to the PSOE not allowing a coalition with Podemos in the first elections in which Podemos got big votes, and fabricated campaigns of funding from Venezuela and Iraq to Podemos by the national police, the right wing higher spheres in the internal affairs ministry and the private media, essentially burned Podemos from the 3rd biggest party of the country into insignificance, and the reaction of most people has been to become apolitical and cynical.
My only hope is that this wave of disregard for institutional politics becomes a breeding ground for activism and labour movement, but the big unions like CCOO and UGT are very much not collaborating in that direction and have been very much co-opted by the PSOE and by legalism instead of activism and labor movement. Unions in Spain have effectively been turned into a way to get a lawyer and information about your current rights, than entities for the struggle for worker’s rights.
Nah, this moment only sucks for the central leftist parties. Both Bildu and the BNG are the strongest they have ever been.
Change in Spain will only come from a federalist coalition of leftist parties.
Change in Spain will not come from the institutions, whether federal or regional. BNGa and Bildu both have quite wide popular support in Galicia and Euskal Herria, and they’re even arguably very grassroots and have a lot of basis in local democracy and activism. However, they’re fundamentally not revolutionary parties, and there’s only so much you can do through the institutions, especially as an EU member state.
I’m very hopeful for activism in regionalist parts of Spain, such as for example through GKS, but I honestly don’t believe that anything beyond mutual-aid structures and some mild policy may come from institution-oriented parties.
The socialists have little representation on the parliament, and right now depend on the socdems to govern.
Pundits (including government pundits) are already saying:
-How this is actually pointless because the genocide will continue.
-The minority left wing parties who pushed this are irresponsible, might eventually collapse the goverment and surrend it to the right wing and the far right.
-Actually this is worse because now our police won’t have the bullets and the fine the goverment will have to pay will be even higher (nevermind simply no paying xd).
-“See? Pdr Snchz takes the genocide seriously! Stop complaining over nothing”, which is fun since this has only happened due to left wing pressure.
A Spain Win.
sucks they they had that deal to begin with, but the left won.
if the US had balls like that Apartheid would collapse within days.
Israel is America’s puppet, Spain is just an “ally”.
Besides, there are no coalition governments in the American system.
It’s a small win surrounded by a bigger loss. They are still increasing their defense spending for NATO. The left was not able to stop that.
This arms deal was only 6 of the 10,471 millions of Euros increase to the military budget.
The left was not able to stop that
There is no left willing to stop that. Possibly Bildu and Podemos will reject the policy (without pulling out of the government “coalition”), but even Esquerra Republicana supports the war budgets, with congress members such as the well-known Gabriel Rufián saying shit like “Leftism also means order and security”. It’si disgusting being European right now, who needs fascists when you have socdems.
I know they don’t read here, but still. To anyone who pushed this, thank you
When Franco outlefts the PSOE in terms of politics in the middle east
What was Franco’s middle east policy?
I never knew about it, I didn’t really think Franco cared much about the middle east in general
Franco has a utilitarian policy regarding the middle East, his commandment of Moroccan troops early in his career probably played a role. Since the Moroccan colonial troops are well treated and played a role in winning the civil war, Franco also granted more political freedom within the Spanish Protectorate . He is also a catholic so his antisemitism drove his policy regarding the treatment of Spanish Jews and not recognizing Israel for the majority of his tenure.
So pretty bad.
As for the PSOE, they refused to call a widespread uprising of the Moroccans in the beginning of the civil war because half of the country is ruled by France, the Republicans don’t want to alienate France and its control over the territories.
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Pedro Sánchez once again being the only soc-lib european leader who occasionally throws a bone to the left.
His government majority hangs on a few hinge parties, the most progressive ones being Bildu, Podemos and Sumar (arguably in that order) [edit: adding BNGa at the request of a cool comrade below who corrected me]. They haven’t even removed the Ley Mordaza (mouthgag law) from the right wing that was applied over a decade ago as a response to the 15-M protests movement.
Additionally, Spain (and hence the PSOE) has a larger maneuvering capability right now due to the economic conditions. Spain, being a deinsdustrialized and tourism-driven economy, is suffering much less from the EU lagging behind industrially compared to China and the USA, than are other countries like Germany or France. Employment numbers are at a historical high for reasons I can’t really understand (other than possibly the widespread availability of highly educated Spaniards accepting low-ish wages of 1800€/month drawing the influx of consulting and other service firms, and the growth of tourism, with around twice the Spanish population in visitors each year). This puts the government at an advantageous position, because it can claim on media that “we’re the only good™ country where line go up”
However, the growth of the right wing is inevitable, it’s a miracle that there’s not a right-wing coalition in the government. If only because people get tired of having the same party in power as things get progressively worse (rent prices hiking, stagnating wages, chronical unemployment especially of younger people…), the right wing will almost inevitably win the next elections in a coalition of PP + VOX. The only thing that prevented that from happening last elections was the right wing sabotaging its own capabilities of coalition with regionalist parties of Catalunya/Galicia/Euskal Herria, due to calling them all essentially state-breaking terrorists.
Hey! Stop ignoring us galician nationalists!! :C
I hate it when they only mention Bildu or ERC, BNG is the main opposition in Galicia (because podemos and sumar imploded and PSOE keeps doing nothing, just like in the Madrid Community).
Damn, a BNGa enjoyer, didn’t think I’d find that in Hexbear. You’re completely right, BNGa is definitely further to the left than Podemos and Sumar, would you put it also further left than Bildu? I’m sadly a mesetario and not really in contact with Galician nationalists.
Not really sure, i’d say they are more or less as left as Bildu. Their current campaign against Altri has been a huge success in terms of engagement.
Nah, but because it’s his only option to getting power. As some user said before, he’d either nationalize or privatize his own mother for 4 more years in the presidency.
Well, yeah, but some soc-lib would rather lose power (Kamala, Macro, Starmer apparently) than do what he does.
Be pretty cool if a block of lefty Congress people in the US threatened the same thing.
Pretty brave to assume there’s enough lefty people in the amerikkkan congress to make a difference.
I was trying to make a joke about “the Squad” not in fact being a squad
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