I’m one of those Americans [who is] really sick and tired of the narrative that we’re constantly told: That we’re supposed to hate some country that’s overseas—that maybe we’ve never been to.
We don’t know anything about that country, but we’re told that they’re the greatest threat to our freedoms and our democracy, and that we have to go to war with them.
I’ve never seen a Houthi—or however you pronounce it—I don’t even know what they look like! I haven’t seen them back home in The Bronx where I live; I haven’t seen them in Washington D.C., and I keep saying: How is this a threat to everyday Americans?
I agree with that, but I refuse a protest vote for Palestine, when the religious fundies here want the same thing they do
And if you did protest vote or not vote at all I hold you equal as those who voted MAGA
average genocide enjoyer
Anyone who voted Democrat is ultimately responsible for Trumpler being elected.
Edit: Lol I hit post and they’re banned.
Big ups to the midwest admin for dunking on the nerd post-haste
What about saving some of that energy for the dogshit genocidal party that refused to do anything that would make people want to vote for them?
“I refuse that people wouldn’t vote for a genocidal maniac, if you didn’t vote for the genocidal maniac with the D next to his name you’re as bad as the people who voted for the genocidal maniac with a R next to his name.”
“Sorry, if you’re a non-citizen immigrant in a red state, and you were counted in your state’s total resident population in the last census, uhhh, you literally led your state to have one extra elector to swing the election in Trump’s favor, so you’re just as bad as MAGA. Also, if you’re an overseas citizen who emigrated from a blue state before the last census, and you don’t work for the US government, you literally led your state to have one fewer elector than it would’ve had, practically handing the election to Trump, so you’re just as bad as MAGA.”
What do you mean by this? Religious fundamentalists in the US are more likely to be Zionists, they want to destroy Palestine, or are you talking about the ‘Israeli’ fundamentalists?
Nazis are the same as those who don’t want to vote for Nazis, interesting.
Did your pathetic protest vote help put the Nazis in power? Oh it did? Then you’re a fucking nazi
the fascist you voted for campaigned on being more fash on immigrants than the orange man and on having “the most lethal military in the world” among various other horrors you overlook because you’re fucking complicit you fucking piece of shit
The dems are giddy about committing a genocide as it is. The nazis kinda were in power mate. It will only sink in when in hindsight you look at all the horror that piece of shit biden happily sent weapons to.
My state has never been blue in my or my parents life
Holy shit you’re fucking stupid lmao.
I live in a state where no vote I could have done would make a difference.
Same here I still voted and Nebraska’s Blue Dot diid matter.
That’s not fucking excuse
Ok, we started with not voting makes you as bad as the literal fascists.
Now we’re at voting doesn’t materially effect the outcome in the vast majority of cases, but you’re still as bad as the fascists for not participating in the American civil religion by personally legitimizing our deeply undemocratic institutions with a vote that is essentially an endorsement of further neoliberal policy that would gladly see many of us dead or enslaved.
Is politics just like a sports thing to you or something? Where you show up to support your team every couple years? Why should I care if the Democrats or Republicans are in office if they are both committing genocide, if they both support policy that is a direct threat to the lives and livelihoods of myself and people I care about? I don’t want to be complicit in that, but apparently I’m as bad as the fascists for not voting for actual fascists in sham elections?
Voter opinion doesn’t correlate to policy in literally any study I’ve ever seen of the electorate in this genocidal farce of a settler-slaver colony. The problem is very clearly not a lack of voter participation, but a lack of actual, functioning democratic institutions. You’re never gonna vote your way out of this situation because the capitalists built the entire system to prevent you from doing exactly that.
When you make a big show of voting blue no matter what, you tell the Democrats they don’t need to worry about your interests because they have your vote regardless. Why the fuck would you do that?
If you live in say, California or Washington, how does checking the blue box help literally anything? I don’t get what you’re saying
Sounds like a reasonable excuse to me. Just like how my vote doesn’t matter too.
Excuse for what? What would it have accomplished if I voted then?
I live in a solidly blue state so thanks to the electoral college my vote for the PSL literally did nothing
Well nothing aside from piss you off, totally worth it
Your vote went to Harris like the rest of your state, regardless of what you checked on your ballot.
Explain to me how my not voting for Trump helped put Trump in power.
Every time you reply in this thread, it actually reelects Trump for another 8 years.[1] Why don’t you learn how Our Democracy® works.
Source: I made it up ↩︎
nah because all third party votes added together and Kamala still lost handily for being an evil genocidal freak and a no-appeal, offers-nothing, world historic loser. thanks for asking though bud i’m happy to clarify!
Nope, that would be the party full throat supporting a genocide when even mainstream media admitted it was a big issue that would lose them votes.
You are just as bad as MAGA voters. You support genocide.
what is democracy in your opinion then? everyone voting for the genocidaire that you approve of?
One side continued the genocide while tut tutting, one side got a ceasefire (before Israel broke it) and is directly negotiating with the Palestinians bypassing Israel. On the face of it, it seems like one side has a lot more Gazan blood on their hands. But keep telling people they need to vote blue no matter who
Imagine supporting religious fundies. LMAO clown thinks he can be taken seriously
The movement against the US/Israel genocide in Gaza has been pressuring the Democrats to take the correct position on this issue for nearly two years. They spit in our face and threw an easily winnable election away to defend their genocide. Now they are being flanked by the fucking Fascists. Even if the current motions of the Trump administration are entirely superficial it is substantially more than what the Democrats did under Biden+Kamala’s leadership. This is an absolute disaster for Liberals. Nobody is ever going to forget this. They embraced an immoral, unpopular policy - a policy so evil it gives the Fascists the room they need to even pretend they’re the good guys - and this is the outcome.
Imagine supporting genocide. LMAO clown thinks they can be taken seriously
The democrats support the ethno-religious state of Israel in its genocide, why should they or you be taken seriously?
What “religious fundies”. No excuses, be specific.
THE MOOOSLIIIMS!
That’s what you and your precious democrats are doing, just with extra steps that include jerking yourselves off
I have an ass full of turds and I need you to suck them out
Oh well you can go fuck yourself then. How bout that?
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