Well that backfired on Ethan

  • WoodScientist [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    18 hours ago

    Wait. Hold on. Do we know this actually happened? Were there other witnesses? He is, first and foremost, a celebrity and entertainer. He is a man in show business. And a left wing commentator being detained? That’s an obvious ratings booster. How do we know this isn’t just the stunt of an entertainer?

    Just doing due diligence. How do we know this actually happened?

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      48 minutes ago

      If that’s the way you think, I’ll just say have fun living your miserable life. Boogeyman around every corner, don’t believe your eyes and ears, no real actions are ever taken, every word spoken to you criticized, everything a lie.

      lol

      As they say “nothing ever happens”.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 hours ago

      I find it believable because:

      1. Other journalists have already been arrested for their views on Palestine like Richard Medhurst and Ali Abunimah. Abunimah got pretty close to being disappeared into a black site in Switzerland.

      2. Some Muslim dude named Hasan being “randomly” selected for further inspection by TSA is a sadly mundane event that isn’t even news.

      3. Hasan has appeared in various mainstream Zionist publications like Haaretz in a very “will no one rid me of this turbulent priest” way. I personally think Hasan needs to worry about security and have an escape plan to leave the US.

      • WoodScientist [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        17 hours ago

        Implausible, no. But I’m also inherently skeptical of any unverified event that someone has the ability and strong financial incentive to invent from whole cloth. I don’t care how perfect you think his politics are. Never trust anyone who tells you everything you want to hear.

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          12 hours ago

          as someone with a middle eastern name, i promise you, it’s really not unbelievable at all that this happened, in addition to him being who he is.

          i would honestly say you’re naive to think this is so unlikely to happen that you assume its fake

          whats more likely? hasan, who doesnt need more viewers or money lying about something to get viewers and money?

          or america being fascist and racist the way it has been for forever?

          • Monk3brain3 [any, he/him]@hexbear.net
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            14 hours ago

            Now that’s just conspiratorial. As much as Hasan has some lib tendencies he’s been shitting on Zionist for the whole time those disgusting freaks carried out and carry out their genocide. That’s the one line that a us government employee of any type cannot cross.

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                10 hours ago

                I mean I’m old enough to find most content creators kinda pointless. I used to watch a lot of anime. Not so much now but I still like anime. I remember watching the biggest anime podcast called trash taste and it was just a fucking blitz of parasocial nonsense. I don’t get how people watch that shit. Some content is better tho. Like second thought is great for newish leftists and progressives. But the good stuff is rare

    • Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      17 hours ago

      He did call other people to let them know what was happening while he was being lead away, so unless you think they’re all in on the conspiracy. He’s already rich and extremely well known. He just interviewed Jean-Luc Mélenchon of the French parliament. There’s no incentive.

      • WoodScientist [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        17 hours ago

        How would they know he’s not just calling them and lying to them? He could have easily called or messaged people and said he was being lead away.

        Celebrities of his stature have performed stunts before. The incentive would be the very ratings explosion that he’s getting now. A ratings explosions means a revenue explosion. More ad revenue. More interview opportunities. More sponsors and donations. He’s making money off of this. And I would not try to argue that he’s already so well-off he’s above wanting more money. When has that ever actually worked?

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          16 hours ago

          They detain journalists who talk about eroding freedoms. They detain activists that protest growing surveillance.

          It’s their way of reminding people they are being watched and that they should back off if they don’t want trouble.

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          it’s just way way more likely that he’s not lying. he doesn’t have a history of bullshit stuntmaking, the government is doing this, and it’s just not a big enough boost to his attention that it would be enticing enough to lie. Looking at this tikok, it has 1.9 million views, and his channel has 44.2 million likes and TikTok almost always stays very close to 10 views per Like, meaning he has half a billion views on just his tikok. Making a huge, risky demonstrable lie to get half a percent across this and a couple other platforms just doesn’t make sense. Just flying out of the country and missing 2 days of streaming probably lost more money than this story brought

        • HelluvaBottomCarter [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          17 hours ago

          What would constitute proof? We can’t rely on Hasan’s word. We can’t rely on the word of the people around him because he may be deceiving them. What would prove it to you? He couldn’t film it. He wasn’t arrested so there’s no public log. We can’t get the video footage from the airport. He wasn’t cited, so no paper trail there.

          It’s okay to be skeptical but you have to think further than just asking questions. You want proof but how do you get it? How do you validate the proof? If it’s too difficult to get the evidence you need, then what do you do about it?

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            10 hours ago

            They just need to convince the feds to admit it since due to the logic presented anyone who is a witness could just be paid off by Hasan so the only trustworthy witnesses would be the feds themself.

            Edit: Just saw an article on it below, saying they at least admitted to an inspection but again, that doesn’t verify the majority of his claims so they would be looking for the feds to admit to political intimidation to prove it.

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      17 hours ago

      He did show the pamphlet DHS provided mentioning dhs.gov/dhs-trip on the stream.

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      DHS themselves admitted there was an “inspection” but not much beyond that.

      When asked for comment about Piker, a Department of Homeland Security official called his account “nothing but lying for likes.”

      “Claims that his political beliefs triggered the inspection are baseless,” Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. “Our officers are following the law, not agendas. Upon entering the country, this individual was referred for further inspection — a routine, lawful process that occurs daily, and can apply for any traveler. Once his inspection was complete, he was promptly released.”

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hasan-piker-twitch-streamer-questioned-us-customs-rcna206406

    • SerLava [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      17 hours ago

      Nah he wouldn’t lie about this and does not need the boost. They would absolutely do this, and if he made it up it’s actually very likely that some groyper in the administration would reveal that it never happened

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        15 hours ago

        Right, hypothetically, could someone lie brazenly to the public about being questioned by TSA? Wouldn’t there be a significant risk of being revealed to be a liar? And for what?