• blunder [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “signs bill giving drivers the right to unionize” did they not have that right already? How does the state grant (and take away) that right?

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      Its a difference in what it means to unionize

      For radicals, to unionize is to come together to use direct action to forward a common goal at work. This is what the knights of labor and the IWW meant.

      For most Americans, it means to give a mass-membership non-profit the right to bargain an employment contract on your behalf within the framework of US contract and labor law

      This second thing is a legal right which can be given or taken, and it is the legal right Newsome just gave to contractors.

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      Unfortunately, in the United States, only “employees” are explicitly given the right to unionize by the NLRA, which is a big part of why classifying gig workers as “independent contractors” (even when they don’t have the ability of ICs to do things like negotiate prices) is so important to companies.

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        Additional context here: there was a statewide ballot measure in 2020 that would have classified gig workers as employees rather than contractors, thereby guaranteeing minimum wage, insurance, unionization, etc.

        Uber spent record-breaking amounts of money fighting it and it went down in flames thanks to the Socal treatlerites.

        Obviously, the state legislature could have passed a bill that would have made them employees, thereby granting them far more benefits, but this way they can just do this, knowing full well nothing will come of it.

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    Supporters said the new law will open a path for the largest expansion of private sector collective bargaining rights in the state’s history.

    Americans forgetting their history challenge (very easy)

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    someone more knowledgeable than me please explain why he would do this after the companies successfully lobbied for the proposition to avoid giving rideshare drivers benefits, with the backing of kamala

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      so two days ago he was playing fortnite on the nintendo switch, and because nintendo doesn’t use unions in their controller factories, the control sticks eventually start to drift over time. Like the butterfly effect, this caused Newsom to almost lose his #1 Victory Royale because when he got downed his character started moving all over the place, making it harder for his duo to actually get him up. This instantly turned him from 0.5 hitler to 0.4999 repeating hitler, and not wanting lyft and uber riders to have their drivers get wheel drift (driving into a wall bc they’re underpaid), he signed the bill, hoping people riding in ubers and lyfts get their own transportation #1 Victory Royale

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      The Service Employees International Union appears to be the ones who took the lead in “negotiations” with rideshare companies, who wanted lower insurance requirements from the state. They’re probably betting that gig workers are too atomized and disorganized to collectively bargain, and that the potential threat would be worth the lower insurance payouts.

      ofc the companies say that lower insurance requirements will reduce prices, but I am 100% positive that California’s uniquely high rideshare prices will remain and Uber/Lyft will just be taking a larger cut, meanwhile drivers who get into an accident on the job will be more likely to be screwed. Hopefully their calculation is wrong and the gig workers union gets off the ground.

      Oh and if the union gets any serious momentum they will 100% blame the union for high prices even though the high prices pre-date the union’s existence by years.

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        maybe its some sort of attempt to make the union pay for accidents with union fees? in the past they used to do shit like that

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    Could be huge, I’ve done my share of rideshare in the past six months so I’ll definitely join whatever union is in the works. I wanna see the ability to set my own prices like an independent contractor in literally any other industry.

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        This would be so cool, turn the state of California into a union shop and give gig apps and their billionaire CEOs the boot.

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      I don’t think they’ll ever give that back. Prop 22 really screwed over drivers, there was the truly amazing but very short time where they were desperate and gave drivers everything they wanted and you could set your own prices.

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        Yeah things are pretty bad. I remember when I started and I looked up a bunch of guides and saw all kinds of people from 2018 talking about how you can make $2k driving forty hours, nowadays you’re lucky to hit $1k in eighty.

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          You’ll obliterate your car, too. The real solution is legislation but it’s clear they don’t give a shit. I don’t think prop 22 is even holding that back anymore, I think a court decided that the part of it that made relegislating stuff like driver pay impossible due to needing a huge majority was null.

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    They didn’t have the right to unionize? Free speech and association? Doing business on any terms they please? I thought that was-

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