Now that is a fair point to make, though I do suspect that has more to do with the size of the state relative to how much of it is if not nice then livable. Lots of nooks and crannies that are remote but not entirely away from civilization, and within civilization there are lots of insular little gatef fuckwad communities.
well i mean, “the inland empire” isn’t exactly great….
i heard it was because a lot of southerners came over around the great depression and then wwii, bringing racist groups with them… and then resentment over black people that moved over to fill factory jobs during wwii… but i dunno, im not historically educated
It goes further back than even that, almost the whole of SoCal was aligned with the South during the lead up to the civil war and the only reason the state didn’t split in two is cause the rest of the state was already prepared to stop it. Then after the civil war a bunch of folks returned but we’re politically and socially countered by generally egalitarian Scots-Irish and Germans from Appalachia and the Great lakes regions. This caused fighting though it didn’t last long because the Mormons started moving in at high numbers, which pissed basically every not Mormon off resulting in the fighting going cold more or less because Mormon bad.
You only really start seeing the racism becoming a problem again around when the first generation of Hells Angels pops up, which probably was from general migratory factors from the South. Regardless the Inland Empire is basically a coin flip on what you’ll get, could be the single most racist person alive or it could be someone so egalitarian in their thinking that John Browns ghost is telling them to chill it just a bit.
They were founded in 1948, generation one of the hells Angels were WW2 vets. They did swell up in numbers during and after Vietnam but they were pretty old already by that point.
Sure but the timescale does matter, while there were racist shitbags in the Inland Empire before hand they were generally of the mind your own business variety. The only real exception I know of was the resurgence of the KKK back in the 1910s and 1920s, where it spooked my 2x great grandfather enough to buy guns for his black workers or anyone who wanted one.
word… but the main point is there’s a lot more racist shitbags in california than most people would think.
we have this reputation as super leftist but go few miles away from the coast and it’s desert alabama….
Preaching to the choir on that one, I grew up round them hell I’m related to them. For anyone who grew up in California this isn’t an unknown especially if they’ve traveled around a bit. Most racist shit I’ve ever heard was out in Victorville. But yeah the only reason that they are somewhat forgotten about is because they’ve been beaten over the head for long enough that it takes a large scale resurgence for it to matter.
Now that is a fair point to make, though I do suspect that has more to do with the size of the state relative to how much of it is if not nice then livable. Lots of nooks and crannies that are remote but not entirely away from civilization, and within civilization there are lots of insular little gatef fuckwad communities.
well i mean, “the inland empire” isn’t exactly great….
i heard it was because a lot of southerners came over around the great depression and then wwii, bringing racist groups with them… and then resentment over black people that moved over to fill factory jobs during wwii… but i dunno, im not historically educated
It goes further back than even that, almost the whole of SoCal was aligned with the South during the lead up to the civil war and the only reason the state didn’t split in two is cause the rest of the state was already prepared to stop it. Then after the civil war a bunch of folks returned but we’re politically and socially countered by generally egalitarian Scots-Irish and Germans from Appalachia and the Great lakes regions. This caused fighting though it didn’t last long because the Mormons started moving in at high numbers, which pissed basically every not Mormon off resulting in the fighting going cold more or less because Mormon bad.
You only really start seeing the racism becoming a problem again around when the first generation of Hells Angels pops up, which probably was from general migratory factors from the South. Regardless the Inland Empire is basically a coin flip on what you’ll get, could be the single most racist person alive or it could be someone so egalitarian in their thinking that John Browns ghost is telling them to chill it just a bit.
well the hells angels were started by vietnam vet fighter pilots
They were founded in 1948, generation one of the hells Angels were WW2 vets. They did swell up in numbers during and after Vietnam but they were pretty old already by that point.
ah i looked it up, wwii ex servicemen, inspired by wwii fighter pilots, and the name is from a bomber….
not super important i suppose
Sure but the timescale does matter, while there were racist shitbags in the Inland Empire before hand they were generally of the mind your own business variety. The only real exception I know of was the resurgence of the KKK back in the 1910s and 1920s, where it spooked my 2x great grandfather enough to buy guns for his black workers or anyone who wanted one.
word… but the main point is there’s a lot more racist shitbags in california than most people would think.
we have this reputation as super leftist but go few miles away from the coast and it’s desert alabama….
Preaching to the choir on that one, I grew up round them hell I’m related to them. For anyone who grew up in California this isn’t an unknown especially if they’ve traveled around a bit. Most racist shit I’ve ever heard was out in Victorville. But yeah the only reason that they are somewhat forgotten about is because they’ve been beaten over the head for long enough that it takes a large scale resurgence for it to matter.