• Fuck Yankies@lemmy.ml
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    Ah yes, corpo platform suckling at the toes of insurance giants. Big surprise.

    “But they are right! Murder is bad.”

    Fucking duh, but the transgressions of the US insurance industry transcends all that, because they are laughing at dying people all the time - laughing all the way to the bank!

    Like there are so many documentaries about the evils of these bastards. One dead exec later and suddenly morals and ethics apply? Gtfo here.

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      The french revolution was bloody. Today the whole world celebrates July 14th, the day a cheering crowd walked the head of the governor of Bastille on a pike.

      Go figure.

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        Something I’ve been thinking about recently is how it seems that MOST national anthems celebrate a bloody war in some way, shape, or form, because that’s pretty much what it always takes to escape from oppressors, is violent fighting back

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      There isn’t always a disco option in life. Sometimes conflict is inherent and pacifism is just quiet complicity.

      Oh, I almost forgot… For legal purposes I’m discussing Minecraft.

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        I hope that all these greedy gold-spewing swines get to die miserably one day

        Maybe I’m being extreme, but that’s my take on nether piglins.

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      When somebody dies from an insurance company, it’s sad, but it’s the system working at usual. US society at large has decided that’s acceptable. Even if you’re opposed to it, it isn’t a transgression of norms. Assassination is.

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    Yup. They permabanned me for saying I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot, since she’s called for bombing millions of people.

    So it’s not just calling for violence that’s bannable. Now apathy for violence against the rich is a bannable offense. Smells like panic to me.

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      I was perma banned for highlighting Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher should be denied the chance to move to Europe to escape Trump. Given they have deep links to PDiddy. A nothing comment, jumped on by emotionally unstable mods. It’s the same on most of the subreddits. If you don’t agree with their perspective, you lose.

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    Can’t believe the corporately owned, corruptly managed, and heavily advertisement-based website would have so many rules against talking about bad things happening to rich people. That shit’s crazy. Who would have guessed?

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      They let it run for a full week though… the crack down started yesterday today in lock step with the heavy fake news push.

      The ruling class let us have our fun, now comes the dick.

      This has been the largest scale anti elite shill operation and all grass roots.

      Don’t let up now…

      Single payer or bust

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        The ruling class let us have our fun

        Can’t help but suspect everyone was hiding under their desks until the culprit was apprehended.

        This has been the largest scale anti elite shill operation and all grass roots.

        Its certainly hit a nerve. But if you’re talking about large scale shill operations, we just got through a multi-billion dollar election cycle where the candidates argued over their favorite flavors of boot just above the sounds of the genocidal meat grinder whirring.

        Single payer or bust

        Can’t stop, won’t stop, until the entire for-profit hospital system is publicly owned and operated.

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          Luigi isn’t the culprit. The cops planted that evidence on him. They won’t let him talk to the press because he didn’t do it.

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          But if you’re talking about large scale shill operations, we just got through a multi-billion dollar election cycle where the candidates argued over their favorite flavors of boot just above the sounds of the genocidal meat grinder whirring.

          You are correct but not grass roots

          Can’t stop, won’t stop, until the entire for-profit hospital system is publicly owned and operated.

          Can I get an, amen?!

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Snowden was more politically acceptable to pardon than Luigi, so if Snowden didn’t even get a pardon for a non-violent crime, Luigi aint ever getting a pardon.

      But fear not, we have something better: JURY NULLIFICATION 🇺🇸🦅

      NYC do you duty: FREE LUIGI!

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        Snowden was more politically acceptable to pardon than Luigi

        Ohh, I don’t know about that… Stealing top secret data, fleeing the country, bleeding it off to Russia directly in a time when we weren’t buddies. Throwing tons of it to the press as in case I get killed…

        From the Government’s standpoint, a healthcare CEO’s job is a high-risk profession and the fact that the worst one’s don’t get offed is the amazing part.

        Don’t get me wrong, neither one are getting pardoned. But I’m pretty sure they wanted Snowden dead.

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      The president can only pardon someone for federal crimes. Isn’t murdering someone also a state crime?

      Then he can’t be pardoned

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          Dual Sovereignty. Both the federal and state governments can separately try the case. Yes they have two chances of convicting him, acquital from state charges doesn’t affect any potential federal charges, double jeoparty rules don’t apply.

          Luigi can get a pardon for either state or federal, but he can still face charges from the other one.

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        Does that mean you never see the riots with burning cars that seem to happen there every few years?

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        It also refers to a more subversive methodology of the powers at be to suppress information that they don’t agree with and deem harmful to the status quo, i.e. Luigi’s manifesto. It’s a multi layered statement that really is applicable to situations.

        The thing it’s referring to in this instance is the fact that Reddit is not allowing freedom of speech under the guise of whatever reason it says it has and having that decision protected because it is a private company worried about its own interests.

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      Inciting violence is actually illegal, but it’s a huge gray area since they have in the past allowed the Unabomber Manifesto and books like Mein Kampf (although sales of that book does support the victim’s surviving families and education about the holocaust).

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        Inciting violence is perfectly legal. You can go on Reddit or Shitter right now and scream as loudly as you like that Luigi needs to be locked up for the rest of his life. Inciting violence is only illegal when you do it against the rich and powerful. Unlike Hitler and the Unabomber, Muad’dib exclusively targeted the rich and powerful. That’s why his manifesto is illegal and theirs aren’t.

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          Lol, imprisoning a person is the least violent option. It’s the basis for all justice that a person can be kept alive while awaiting trial or reform. Without it, the only method of law enforcement available would be to kill suspects on sight without trial.

          If you love the wild west so much you should try living in undeveloped areas of south america, such as near the rainforests, or in parts of Africa being contested by warlords.

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    The fact that so many social media sites have to restrict this sort of thing just goes to show what most people think about this situation. So satisfying to watch.

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          Hold on, let’s test that hypothesis

          Those kids with blood cancer deserved it!

          Now let’s see how many downvotes this comment gets. If it gets heavily downvoted, then all hail our leukemic overlords.

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          well damn, did not realize that dead ceos and insurance company owners are now equivalent of “sick kids” within the US power structure.

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      This absolutely the right lesson to learn here. Who cares if you can’t discuss it (not literally)? We already know the American people agree. We now need to take the next step to unify the working class and organize so we can coordinate our efforts and exercise actual political power

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      I mean, free speech is a government thing. It’s got nothing to do with private companies. Anyone telling you otherwise is blowing smoke up your ass.

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    Why do people still use reddit? why do people still use twitter? why are people using bluesky thinking it’ll be different??

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      It’s the network effect. It’s always the network effect.

      Your current platform enshittified. Where do you go? Well, the majority of people are going to Bluesky, and it’s familiar in terms of UI, so you go there. Sure, you could convince someone like that to try something like Mastodon, but Mastodon is comparably much smaller than Bluesky, so its intrinsic value to people is substantially lower, not to mention the fact that without an algorithm, most of these users have no clue how to curate a feed, since every platform has an algorithm now. A lot of these people will have never used an algorithm-less platform in their entire life.

      The same goes for Reddit vs. Lemmy. Reddit has much more users than Lemmy, more niche communities, higher engagement, etc. Why move somewhere that’s identical in function if it’s smaller? Your current platform works well enough.

      I think it’s easy to underestimate how much censorship and enshittification people are willing to put up with. People will put up with a lot before they switch platforms. Reddit not letting people publish a person’s manifesto isn’t gonna convince many people to abandon their entire accounts and communities and to switch to Lemmy.

      It literally took Twitter being rebranded into oblivion, and turned into an explicit safe haven for fascists and far-right freaks, with an algorithm deboosting non paid-for content multiple times over before people really started flocking out in large numbers.

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        I think it’s easy to underestimate how much censorship and enshittification people are willing to put up with. People will put up with a lot before they switch platforms.

        People use the Internet without an adblocker

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          Compare also: the people who bitch about McDonald’s, Walmart, Amazon, or similar, yet still spend money there. In many cases (not all), there’s an option to spend elsewhere, yet folks still vote with their wallet to pay into the system that f***s them.

          Capitalists don’t care about our gripes. The only language they know is profit and money

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            To be fair, a lot of that is due to significant, meaningful pressures that prevent them from actually shopping anywhere else. Corporations that provide things with much more inelastic demand (food, home goods, etc) are harder to escape from than social media sites that nobody actually needs to, for instance, stay alive.

            For instance, Amazon’s “most favored nation” policy means that you’re literally not allowed to sell your product anywhere else for cheaper. Amazon becomes the only place where products have the lowest possible price you could afford.

            If you need to buy a given product, whether it be groceries from Amazon Fresh, or diapers for your baby, Amazon will give you the lowest price (by effectively just causing all other prices to go up), and if, like many Americans, you live paycheck to paycheck, you can’t exactly afford to switch stores.

            That isn’t true across the board of course, but it’s definitely a bit different from social media.

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        Coming to Lemmy means losing some of the really well supported niche communities from Reddit of old and that was the biggest hit of leaving, but the site being such cancer now I wonder how well they are doing anyway.

        Lemmy, once you’ve blocked 90% of the weird tankies, really does feel like Reddit from 10+ years ago in the comments. It’s just a shame due to its current small size how single minded the general feed often feels. Hopefully that improves

      • One issue with alternative smaller platforms can also be them becoming cesspools of users banned from the big platform. The first couple of Reddit alternatives quickly collected the racists and jailbait porn.

        A viable alternative platform needs more than extremist niches.

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          Too true. The first lemmy instance I signed up for shut itself down without warning within a week of me signing up because they’d accidentally federated with a CP instance and their country’s government could have ended up putting the instance’s owner in jail for it.

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        A lot of these people will have never used an algorithm-less platform in their entire life.

        Drag can confirm, drag has never used a social media without algorithms. Unless talking through two cans and a string counts.

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    huh

    who would have thought that the front page of the internet could also be one of its many giant prolapsed flapping assholes ?

    not just regrading to this specific issue though