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vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 6 months ago

On Russian TV this myterious unknowable and unclear gesture was censored. It is a complete mystery why since it was an just an awkward moment

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On Russian TV this myterious unknowable and unclear gesture was censored. It is a complete mystery why since it was an just an awkward moment

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vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 6 months ago
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    It’s also censored on RedNote, btw, here’s a completely unrelated image.

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      So the x is for them not voting right?

      why did Germany not vote yay…

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        X is Abstain yeah. All the countries that abstained did so to show the US that they’re good little vassals.

        The official reason is that apparently saying “Nazism is bad” will lend validity to Russia’s claim to be denazifying Ukraine. How that looks worse than Ukraine voting to allow Nazism is unclear.

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        Truly one of the world’s great mysteries /s

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        X is abstain, blank is no vote

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      Gotta love how basically all western countries abstained.

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        international-community-1international-community-2

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          The color scheme looks so ominous

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        Ireland kitty-cri

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    Russia has done a lot of things wrong over recent years but one thing they are still consistently winning at is absolutely crushing Nazis wherever they can

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      A while back (like years now) there was a thread on here talking about Russia under Yeltsin, and how basically nazi gangs were running rampant brutalizing people after the fall of the USSR. Once Putin came in, for all his other faults, he had those sorts eradicated and any remnants suppressed.

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      I bet it’s been a massive boost to their morale in Ukraine to have the country infested with nazis. People won’t want to fight for bourgeois interests in horrifying wars. People will, however, sign up to kill nazis for free. That’s especially true in Eastern Europe where the nazis did most of their dirt outside of Germany. Veterans of the Great Patriotic War are still alive and they have family who won’t hesitate to follow in their footsteps.

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        I bet it’s been a massive boost to their morale in Ukraine to have the country infested with nazis.

        I’ve seen reactions of both Russian troops and civilians over this and the reactions I’ve seen are a mix of betrayal that people who are supposed to be their brothers despise them and genuine horror at the level of Nazism in Ukraine. I don’t think the Russians were unsure of how bad the Nazism was, I think instead they see Ukraine as a genuine threat even to the average civilian (in Kursk Ukrainian troops and foreign mercs were literally gunning down civilians) and it’s still as unfathomable an evil as it was in WW2. I genuinely believe by the time the war started the level of Nazism in Ukraine was no mystery to the average Russian.

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      • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        People go for critical support because it opposes the US’s interests and somehow forget that the USSR has been dead for over thirty years and the Russian Federation is a bourgeoisie oligarchy wearing its corpse as a mask.

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          The reason people critically support Russia is for that exact reason

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            I’m not saying that they shouldn’t have critical support, just that people seem to assume they are better than they really are once that support has been given.

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          any leftist who opposes a mutlipolar world and the weakening of US-NATO, most likely lives in the Imperial core or one of its vassal states. They have no problem with the US being the lone superpower with the ability to crush or starve any country that tries to implement a more equitable system that goes against the US “rules based order”. With the rise of China and Russia and the weakening of US-NATO, countries like Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK etc, will have breathing space to chart their own path, instead of being constantly under the jackboot of US Imperialism. Just look at the recent Cuban energy crisis, which countries sent aid? Russia, China and Mexico. Is Russia sending this aid due to past socialist relations? Nah, but instead of constant US led colour revolution attempts, that some Western “leftists” have no problem with and even support, stability in these countries is geopolitically better for Russia-China.

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            With the rise of China and Russia and the weakening of US-NATO, countries like Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK etc, will have breathing space to chart their own path, instead of being constantly under the jackboot of US Imperialism.

            I don’t disagree, but the path Russia seems to be charting is one of bourgeoisie oligarchy. Not something to admire.

            • TheGenderWitch [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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              this war is definitely consolidating the power of United Russia and liberal oligarchy

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          Critical support means supporting a nation fighting back against the other nation that has a global hegemony economically and in military as well against their proxies. We acknowledge that the Russian Federation is an oligarchy; but unlike America it doesn’t have military bases surrounding and in every country around nations they are hostile toward nor dictates the actions and policy of the west which is the primary aggressor and agents of imperialism defined by Lenin.

          Despite the death of the Soviet Union, it still has done more for the international working class than any settler project.

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            Critical support means supporting a nation fighting back against the other nation that has a global hegemony economically and in military as well against their proxies.

            Yes exactly, but we don’t have to (and shouldn’t) like them. The only thing between Russia and the kind of Imperialism that the US engages in, is capacity.

            China I think is our best hope, but the rise of this Russia is something to cheer only in how it undermines American hegemony.

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        Hell doesn’t the Wagner group name have highly questionable origins from Utkin?

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            Huh that and the killings of civilians they’ve been doing in mali central africa etc… Yeah they trying to live up to that name. Apparently Hitler’s pianist

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        The difference is that the Nazis in Ukraine are supported by a nation with a global economic and military hegemony and are being exported to support other imperialist projects.

        Like nations choosing to support and side with Russia and China against their colonial aggressors. Or nations seeking their own independence.

        Do you think Imperialism is when country attack other country?

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        russian fascism is definitely an issue where russia could improve, but not nearly the same as ukraine just being massively filled with armed nazi battallions

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          • vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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            Yeah this is true. There is a reason the American right have a crush on them. There is a serious rot in there thats been festering since the fall of USSR.

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            very true, i agree. Its sad too that the communist parties are nothing more than controlled opposition who do more nationalist pandering than actual organizing. I hope for things to get better, but im running out of hope lol.

            god i miss lenin, stalin, and the bolsheviks

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                all that can be done is to build those forces when possible and to aid fellow LGBTQ when possible.

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    On Ukrainian TV, they literally went “Musk made the Sig Heil Salute, means he’s our guy!”

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      Lmao

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      I don’t fuck with that account, anybody speak ukranian?

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          Is it a joke based on the portrayal by Russia?

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            • bbnh69420@hexbear.net
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              L M A O I’m glad my bullshit detector was correct in this instance

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              I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

              • yewtu.be
              • inv.nadeko.net
              • yt.artemislena.eu
              • piped.video
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        They already subtitled it for you lol

        Маск только что зиганул, ну, наш человек, получается

        lol

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          And I’m saying I didn’t trust the subtitler

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            This also seems like something where context matters and it might be a bit

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            You can hear what he’s saying: Mask tol’ko shto ZIGANUL, nu, nash chilovek

            The “zig” in ziganul means “Sieg” aka the “zig” in zig-zag as in the Nazi salute.

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              Ok let me rephrase. I don’t trust that a ukranian newscaster went on tv and said “we are nazis just like elon musk,” so is there any other context that would indicate this isn’t a sincere “I love hitler and bandera” statement?

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                Fair point, that I don’t know though. All we know is that 1+1 is a major Ukrainian TV channel owned by Igor Kolomyskyi, the pro-Maidan Ukrainian-Israeli oligarch.

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    Russia is bad guys, which means they were just censoring him because they hate autism! We should get a group of celebrities like Mark Hamill and Stephen King together to do this same gesture to show Russia that we aren’t afraid of them!

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      very plausible cia narrative

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    Wow, Russia censors free speech? Not surprised!

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    Does this mean Russia has to invade? To get rid of the racists?

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      Fingers crossed.

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      Killing nazis is good, so…

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      maybe not an invasion, but just send some Oreshnik missiles

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      inshallah

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      inshallah-script

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      My country yearns for freedom!

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      Putin, please commence denazification when ready

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      Ideally they can just get them with some Polonium tea.

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    Russian TV way ahead of APnews on this one.

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    Just a really cool little guy and besides he has autism

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    Ineffective censorship, if you ask me.

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