Big tough oil men turn into limpwristed traitors who knuckle under when Trump calls to them. Fucking embarrassing.

Nationalize the oil already. Get the foreign corporations and their brain dead lackeys out.

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    Jeez, I thought my premier was bad (Ford), but to think that she’s not just corrupt and stupid, but openly being hostile to fellow Canadians during this moment of crisis.

    Albertans needs to have a hard look at how much money the oil barons are stealing from them and think about whether it’s worth letting someone so selfish to lead them. The fact that the richest province in the country has one of the lowest public spending and lowest wages is something to to really think about.

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    A proper headline would be “Premier Smith has another whiny little O&G hissy fit, admits she’s been a separatist all along.”

    Fucking Nazi scumbag is destroying our province faster than ever, and the rural vote keeps supporting her because “fuck them trans weirdos.”

    I have some sympathy for the hard left in the US right now, because how they’re being treated by the rest of the world is how Alberta as a whole is being treated by the rest of Canada.

    Maybe it’s justified, I don’t know anymore. Smith should be charged with High Treason when she comes back from Florida at the end of this month, but instead our American-owned media will fawn over her for ‘decisive leadership’ and ‘putting Alberta first.’

    We’re trying folks, we’re trying in Alberta to stop her.

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    To choose this level of disunity given what is going on is staggering.

    Do we need to boycott Alberta too?

    BC should put a toll on the million barrels of oil Alberta pipes through BC every day. You want our coast? We have a list of demands…

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    Right. So what I’m reading from this is that she wants Alberta to be Crimea. The US will come to “free” Alberta and leave the rest of us alone for a few years.

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    (Follow up to my other comment) If Smith is going to choose Team Trump if Carney doesn’t meet all her insane demands, then Alberta voters know she has already made her choice.

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    The demands:

    • give Alberta full access to export oil to the north, east, west, south, up, and down

    • stop saying mean things about oil and gas

    • acknowledge that carbon dioxide is what plants crave

    • double pollution in other provinces so Alberta doesn’t stand out so much

    • put a tariff on the sun to stop solar power being so underpriced

    • end the prohibition on littering

    • dig a canal through B.C. so oil tankers can get to Edmonton

    • halt the federal censorship of energy companies

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      So:

      We’re tired of you abusing Alberta’s land, let us abuse land in all the other provinces and at least one territory (for some reason)?

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      acknowledge that carbon dioxide is what plants crave

      I didn’t know brawndo was carbonated

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    She’s been sucking MAGA dick for so long it’s scrambled her brain. I can’t believe people voted for this traitorous loser.

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    The tone of this is disgusting from Smith. God I am so fucking sick of conservatives. Every demand is just climate change horseshit that wont help Canada. But I think the PM should probably agree to many of these. We should probably build pipelines, and lift the tanker ban in B.C. Bring back plastic bags and plastic straws because conservatives are actual fucking children who cant compromise on basic shit like that without shitting their pants. The net-zero car mandate can be removed because its just a virtue signal anyways and people will shift to EV’s naturally, because they are just way better in every conceivable way. Ignore the rest of the demands. This will give them a win, they can stick their pacifiers back into their mouths, and we can handle the crisis we are dealing with now. Once the political situation is stabilized we can get back to work on plastics and climate change etc. But Smith is a fucking traitor and needs to go eventually.

    I think nothing actually pisses me off more then the Albertan oil dudes who are constantly bitching and complaining about how they are so mistreated. I lived in Edmonton for 2 years and met a lot of oil patch folks. And I have a few friends of friends who work there. Every single one, without exception, is ROLLING in fucking money that they don’t know what to do with. They buy themselves a big truck that they don’t even use most of the time because they fly to fucking work (company pays for plane tickets) they buy themselves a condo, and they go to country bars every weekend and blow 100’s of dollars on booze and strippers and blow. Give me a fucking break acting like your this poor oppressed people because the rest of Canada wanted to lead by example in fighting climate change and keeping plastics out of the environment. Fuck me. A lot of our environmental stuff can be reasonably disagreed with. I am a builder and personally I think a lot of the step code in new homes is pretty impractical and a bit green-washy. We have added a shitload of extra costs to homes in plastics and tapes and insulation and labor making homes slightly more efficient, by just a few %, when the manufacturing of all that material far outweighs the savings in energy. However, I don’t feel the need to tear the country apart over it. I accept that I will eat some extra costs in this stuff and make slightly less, but overall, its still pretty awesome to be a builder and live in Canada. Maybe ill try to make arguments to local politicians, or vote for the changes I want to see. Threatening unity in Canada during this moment in time is fucking unforgivable.

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      Please don’t bring back plastic bags. Seeing those bags stuck way up high in trees always makes me sad. Paper bags are fine.

      -Signed, someone who can never fucking remember to bring a reusable bag into the store

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        This may or may not help you, but what I do is: store my reusable bags with my shoes, so every time I reach for a pair of shoes before I leave the house, I could also grab a bag.

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        What rapper bags bro? It’s cotton bags everywhere. I’d rather have biodegradable plastic

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          Cotton degrades, plastic just keeps getting smaller for a few centuries until it finally breaks down. And most of those bags are just non disposable plastic.

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            You think’cotton" bags are 100% pure no-plastic cotton? Try burning one and see if there’s no plastic.

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              You can get 100% cotton items, probably even bags if you look hard enough, but you’re right, most cotton items are a cotton synthetic blend.

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    Danielle could be immortalized as the plastic fork warrior, the kindest words I have for that idiot.

    Alberta has a very high concentration of Americans that are here to take as much money as they can. Big oil in Alberta are actually Americans, well except for Nexen which Harper allowed be sold to the Chinese CPP. The locals didn’t watch Kids In the Hall, these ones do spread for (wild) roses every chance they get.

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    I think she overestimates Albertans support of her far-right bullshit. If she’s going to suck Trumps dick, she can go start her own province, with hooker and blackjack.

    Seperatism is a non-starter here, and they only just won back Alberta from the NDP pretty damn recently. If she wants to associate her name with the lunatics in the US, she’ll find out why the CPC is looking to lose the federal election.

    She should just go snog with Tucker Carlson and take that sweet, sweet energy company board money.

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      And yet Albertans will almost definitely support PP, even as he campaigns using Trumps slogans, wearing Trumps bronzer, and promising the same DOGE-like crap that’s going on down south. They’ll also likely re-elect Smith when the time comes.

      I hope I’m proven wrong, but I’m not optimistic.

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        And yet Albertans will almost definitely support PP

        I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Carney is from Alberta. He knows what Albertans care about most (the economy, oil and gas, pipelines, and Alberta beef). He knows they hate carbon taxes and he’s moved very swiftly to axe the tax.

        His decisiveness, his heritage, and his determination to stand up to Trump who is trying to tariff our economy into oblivion will make him very popular. I think he’ll take the same approach as Zelenskyy: position himself as a wartime leader who is the right choice for the fight ahead.

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          Alberta is likely the reason the Americans are confident they can ‘take Canada by economic force’. Smith’s overtures are basically moving towards Alberta leaving Canada / joining the USA. Once that happens, east/west trade basically gets cut – BC is left isolated and unable to feed its population without trade crossing the USA. This, coupled with the dissolution of the Columbia River Treaty, wherein we get a cut of the power produced by US hydro plants downstream of the river (so BC isn’t energy independent by any stretch, contrary to what some politicians have implied over the years), allows the USA to annex BC. Most of the prairies would follow Alberta, from the sound of things when push comes to shove (the Sask premier has made similar “you can’t restrict our trade south, we don’t care about the federation!” comments from what I recall, we just don’t hear it as much in the media), and areas of the northern territories would be increasingly pressured after BC+Alberta fall, especially on the western side. The USA wouldn’t have to move any troops to accomplish this, they just need a compliant Alberta, which they seem to have.

          Taking Greenland would allow them to isolate the eastern parts of Canada by restricting ocean trade routes and limiting access to European markets – they won’t need to “take” take Greenland, but just setup a few occupied military bases similar to what they have in Guantanamo in Cuba (Cuba doesn’t want them there, but there they are!). And without BC / access to the West Coast and/or the Panama canal, moving goods from China becomes difficult/impossible for Eastern Canada. Without the prairies and lacking non-US controlled trade routes, food sustainability becomes an issue for Central Canada, making it an easy target. The maritimes fall, practically as an afterthought.

          With the “fentanyl is a WMD” rhetoric, they may even try to expedite that by sending troops in to our ports – and honestly, when you hear how the longshoremen in BC operate, the states may have actual justification to do so: their ‘attack’ would have a grain of truth, given the seedy crap that goes on at the ports. And despite the bravado from some of our politicians, they would likely still capitulate on a ton of things to try and appease the Americans. PP would do it with a smile, Carney will do it slightly grudgingly but in the same “rationale” as what we saw down south with the Senate Democrats betraying the progressives on the budget vote – so, for example, the Americans are on about “banking”, specifically wanting access to retail banking while ignoring Canadian regulations. Carney likely won’t hesitate to throw Canada’s retail banking ecosystem under the bus. Carney and Carolyn Rogers are the folks who were responsible for smashing the hell out of the small credit unions in Canada already – Carolyn practically killed Central1, the primary trade association for the Credit Union system (though it takes a long time to bleed out) – they’ll happily sell out what’s left, and any modicum of privacy people have on their payments, to the USA if they think it’ll buy them a few more years of “near status quo”. Even if doing so will make it easier for the USA to target “bad thinkers” by reviewing where you spend money - similar to what Doge and the social media inspections are doing currently. The CBC will spin the story into a positive, just like how they spun Freelands negative results on the USMCA into a positive after that deal was signed. The CBC reporting there, while it was being negotiated, listed various things we were seeking that’d be ‘measures’ of how we did – we failed on most of em, yet they still ran pieces as though Freeland did a great job, with photos of her collapsed on a couch ‘exhausted’ from negotiating so hard or whatever. That sort of shenanigans from the CBC, is one reason the “right wing” calls to defund the CBC convince so many people; and instead of addressing the issue, the Left is now simply blasting out that we need to protect the CBC because of American influence in other media channels. You either support all Left wing positions without question/thought, or else you’re labelled a bootlicking fascist. We don’t really have a non-authoritarian option.

          Another area they’re likely to capitulate on, are things like Immigration and “bad state” students – like the Bill the US is currently pushing to ban students from China from accessing higher education. Realistically, do you think they’ll be all “Yeah, no worries, we’ll keep sharing tech/education stuff with Canada, even though they don’t do the same racist shit”? Nah, they’ll require Canada to put restrictions / limits / block the same sorts of people. With Trumps approach, he may just go with a blanket “No more CPUs for Canada, unless they agree to our terms” – try finding any kind of computer that isn’t tied to the USA supply chains, its nearly impossible. And we’ll likely end up doing it, because our politicians will reason out that the “best option” is to go along with it, and hope the USA ‘gets better’.

          Places like Europe are aggressively trying to build up sustainable military manufacturing. They’re pushing to excise American tech companies - advancing things like Linux-centric Operating systems for use by businesses/government agencies. Building up nuclear capacity. Our politicians are big on talking, but very short on actual action. They put the entire government into Microsoft, AWS, Google, Meta etc. Our health records are in the US cloud. Our financial regulators are in the US cloud. Most of our government agencies are in the US cloud. Even if “data is stored in Canada”, access and use of that data is controlled by USA companies, that are beholden to the Orange mans whims – no, that’s not quite right: USA tech companies that are not only beholden to his whims, but are egging him on to do more. The govt sold out so much of our supply chain to other countries, that it’s nearly impossible to get anything that’s “Canadian made”, beyond the odd grocery or clothing item here and there. And while claiming that they view this as an existential threat, their actual response has been very muted when it comes to supporting Canadian industries / businesses. And none of the parties, from what I can see, will realistically change that trend – it’s mostly just whether you want PP gleefully destroying stuff with a “DOGE-NORTH” hat, or if you want a sullen Carney doing it. Best hope is that the states descends into a civil war, and we manage to last long enough to see it – but its increasingly unlikely, as American “resistance” sorts are weak willed, and generally “online activists, offline enablers”.

          Like, it wasn’t too long ago that Trudeau was busy blasting out, and celebrating, that Canada was ‘the first postnational state’, adding that there was ‘no core identity, no mainstream in Canada’. Places like Vancouver don’t even bother with celebrating “Canada” on Canada day, instead putting on basket weaving “Canada is a genocidal shame fest” events, and making asking question about that narrative a criminal hate crime. Even if the Liberals are the most “likely” to provide some sort of resistance at this point, they celebrated the country being dismantled, segregated and separated. And they celebrate tools like censorship – many of the tools the right-wing extremists are using, were made/blessed by left-wing “progressives”. They’re all marching to the beat of the same authoritarian, tech oligarch drum.

          Sorry, I’ll stop ranting.

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            Places like Vancouver don’t even bother with celebrating “Canada” on Canada day

            I’m sorry, fucking what? I’m from Vancouver, born there, grew up there. There’s definitely a recognition of past injustices again FN and Japanese Canadians on Canada day. Richmond was home to 90%+ of Canada’s Japanese-descent citizens before WW2. But what you just said is un-fucking-hinged. Stop talking about shit you clearly don’t have a fucking clue about.

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              I’m from Vancouver, and currently live here. Vancouver does “Canada together” (not Canada Day celebration – because it’s triggering to some minority groups to Celebrate a nation that they view as a colonial genocidal occupier). No fireworks. And as you say, lots of recognition of past injustices. Most of the events are FN oriented, basket weaving, music, etc. There’re food trucks, which aren’t bad. It’s not so much a celebration of Canada, but a celebration of FN culture, and an assertion that FN culture is key to Canada. FN culture is often xenophobic, undemocratic, and unaccepting of ‘colonials’ (for good reason in some cases) – these aren’t, historically, Canadian values. It’s not so much “Let’s show off how great Canada is”, as it is “look back at all the bad stuff we did, and celebrate the victims with a hope for reconciliation”. So in that sense, yes, we do still “celebrate” on Canada day, but it’s not so much a celebration of Canada. The change over to this format happened around the same time as Trudeau’s “Postnational” comments, declaring us a people without a singular connecting culture.

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                FN culture is often xenophobic, undemocratic, and unaccepting of ‘colonials’

                I am FN…and again. Fuckin what?

                (for good reason in some cases)

                You know when the last residential school closed?
                1996
                Try being part of a group that has been culturally suppressed for hundreds of years, the subject of a genocide, and then say “in some cases”.

                these aren’t, historically, Canadian values.

                You need to read up on Canadian history. Even recent history shows that’s not entirely true.

                Pull your head out your ass bud. I think you’re getting out what you put in.

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                  So you’re in a demographic that gets ‘uplifted’/‘praised’ at the Canada Together event – explains why you view it differently.

                  One of the most common graffiti tags around Vancouver is FN tagging things about giving land back, or wanting colonials out. The MMIWG report recommendations largely orient around FN-exclusive services and privileges. The criminal system literally has to have a race-based reviews as part of judgment, which is an attempt to justify the law punishing people differently based on racist segregation, giving specific benefits (in the form of reduced sentences/bail conditions) to criminals of FN descent, and giving harsher punishment for crimes committed against people of FN descent – JWR, our first FN AG, literally campaigned for and implemented this race-based privilege, her policies being a big reason we had the huge uptick in repeat violent offenders being released onto the streets around the time COVID started (it became much more noticeable after the lock downs). Housing is built explicitly for FN. The Hereditary chief system, and band management in general, is not inclusive, not overly accountable, nor something other races can “immigrate” to – a black guy can’t show up and become a FN, the system is racist by definition. Non-FN that do things like create art/images that resemble FN things, get sued / torn down / shamed – hell, my Mom once brought some home-made Dreamcatchers to a craft sale in the 90s, and was verbally assaulted by a FN vendor (whose dreamcatchers weren’t selling, as they were lower quality) until she had to leave.

                  I’m not allowed to ask questions about the residential school system, or question the narrative around it being a genocide, as questioning it is on schedule to be claimed a hate crime. So you win that one by authoritarian decree, I have to accept whatever you say about it. Because the system doesn’t treat people equally. Very Canadian – so you’re right, we do have very authoritarian tendencies, even in recent history.

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    As an Albertan, I fail to see see what leverage she thinks she has here. Our province consistently votes conservative regardless of how many bones the Liberals are throwing us (ex, buying a pipeline to ensure it gets constructed when the owner backs out) or how much the Conservatives ignore us.

    Leaving Canada to either form an independent nation or join the US are both wildly unpopular, and there’s nothing she can say that’ll drum up enough support for either to occur. If she decides to “turn off the taps,” her O&G overlords will punish her.

    Like many of the dipshits making good money with little to no education in this province, she has a wildly inflated sense of our importance and value.

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    All I heard was:

    No Team Canada approach unless you make me Team leader! Waaaaaah!