• Cocopanda
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    15 hours ago

    Nope. They are kind to strangers and showed how to be a good person. Always supportive of social programs. Always willing to help anyone in need. You didn’t need to be family or a friend. They. Would help. No questions asked. He employed thousands of people in my dying coal region in storage warehousing. Might not have paid super well but for the region. He guaranteed people an income. He would give homes to the churches of multiple denominations. My favorite lake house he had became a nuns home. I miss that place but it goes to goodness now. No the cities closed the schools because they out grew them. They sit for decades. And he goes in and turns them into nursing facilities and day care facilities for communities. It was fun demoing the one school. I used to lunch old teacher desks out the third floor windows into dumpsters. We turned a dilapidated century old school into a community center again. It was closed for like 20 years. And was no longer viable for school use. He invests in these old dying communities.

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      Nope. They are kind to strangers and showed how to be a good person

      Okay, stop. You keep pretending as if being nice in personal interactions somehow overrides stuff like being a capitalist and living off of exploitation of billions.

      Always supportive of social programs

      Like destroying schools.

      Social programs under capitalism are a bandaid. Actual implementations of stuff like guaranteed housing require extremely rich people like him to not exist.

      They. Would help.

      Okay, how many homes have they given to the homeless for free and with no strings attached?

      He employed thousands of people in my dying coal region in storage warehousing

      And?

      Might not have paid super well but for the region

      So, he is extremely rich, and decides to underpay those people by utilising their desperation. And you say that this person is your friend.

      He would give homes to the churches of multiple denominations

      That’s bad. I hope you understand why giving homes to organisations that have a history of supporting and participating in colonialism, slavery, genocide, general infliction of harm to people, especially LGBT people, women, and non-white people because the fiction they believe in supposedly dictates so is bad.
      Going to note that he did not give those homes to the people who actually needed that.

      No the cities closed the schools because they out grew them

      ‘Outgrew’ them how? Did children stop being born there?

      Going to also note that you are yet to address how it is okay for him to live off of colonial and capitalist exploitation of billions.

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        Outgrew the 100 plus year old brick building because it would cost too much to modernize. City grew. The school was replaced by a massive property the city built. He just went in and turned the first floor into a day care facility and community center and the third and second floor into elderly apartments. Section 8 basically for poor elderly to live in at little to no cost to them. Dude did this in many run down towns.

        We lived in a coal region that imploded when the mines were flooded during the Knox Mine disaster. Look it up. He used his football skills to go to an Ivy League school. Got drafted by the NY giants but skipped the NFL to go into business. He saw all these old industries collapsing. Bought their old buildings and turned them into a data storage company. Started with microfilm storage up to digital management in the 00’s. Dude kept Scranton Pennsylvania alive for decades with his city investments. Never really asked for much back because he made a living in an honest way.

        When the mob burned down his warehouse in my home town. Sadly he had to close up the offices there. Because it was no longer safe to do business with the DOJ for criminal court filing storage. The Buffalino mob bosses court case was stored in the warehouse and just by chance that warehouse caught on fire before the new fire safety system was installed. He was a stand up dude nearly destroyed by the Italian mob because he did business with the feds. That fire burned for a month. That’s how many records burned up in that building. Dude persevered through that tragedy. And didn’t blame anyone for it. Just took it on the chin. But I know the truth because my grandfather. RIP. His right hand man. Had to go to court to defend the company from the lawsuits after the fire. They had security footage of NY plate Cadillacs in the parking lot the night of the fire. Kennedy assassination records were lost in that fire. Sadly.

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          He used his football skills to go to an Ivy League school

          HAHAHAHA.
          Why the f are football skills even valued for admissions to universities in the US? What relation do they have to academic efforts?
          Nonsensical society of bloodthirsty monsters.

          Also, not sure how that is relevant to this ‘friend’ of yours supposedly being good.

          He saw all these old industries collapsing. Bought their old buildings and turned them into a data storage company. Started with microfilm storage up to digital management in the 00’s

          Not seeing anything that would paint him in a good light here.

          Never really asked for much back

          ‘This rich person never asked for much back when raking up massive profits’.

          because he made a living in an honest way

          You are contradicting yourself. You just said that he owned companies, but now you are saying that he made a living ‘in an honest way’.

          He was a stand up dude

          You are contradicting yourself again. You previously said that he owned companies and used other people’s labour for his own gain.

          Dude persevered through that traged

          Ah yes, the ‘tragedy’ of becoming slightly less rich.

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            No. More like criminal elements trying to destroy your business because their boss was in federal court. It’s why I hate Italians that support heroin peddling mobsters. They destroyed all the fucking unions with their bullshit. They hollowed out the American voice of the worker. At the cost to their pocketing millions from union fees. If you ignore that part about America. You missed out what happened to the unions in America. Teamsters were transporting heroin for the mob.

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              They destroyed all the fucking unions with their bullshit

              The entities most involved with union-busting are the extremely rich people like your friend and NATO states.

              They hollowed out the American voice of the worker

              I’m sorry, but this is extremely silly, especially considering that it is public knowledge that extremely rich people like your friend have always made union-busting efforts.

              If you ignore that part about America. You missed out what happened to the unions in America. Teamsters were transporting heroin for the mob

              HAHAHA.
              Not that I am a fan of your national chauvinist unions, but this accusation is extremely silly when extremely rich people like your friend have done stuff like use strike breakers.

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                14 hours ago

                Bud they would murder people in the Mine Unions for speaking out of turn. They would leave them at the bottom of the mine and turn off the oxygen systems. To teach other people a lesson about speaking up.

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                    14 hours ago

                    Just look up the Molly Magreggors. They would blow up mines and kill miners who didn’t want to start the union with them. It’s how pre union miners fought in the 1800’s.

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                14 hours ago

                What do you know about criminal syndicates and the union leaders of the 70’s? Who do you think bought the unions? The five fucking families. Sure the courts fucked it up but the mob destroyed the movement.

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                  14 hours ago

                  Hahaha.
                  Citation needed.

                  Not sure why you even decided to veer things into the union stuff, especially considering that unions are one of the few ways in which workers - like yourself, apparently, - can actually fight for their rights, and considering that the extremely rich people like your friend take effort to demonise and sabotage them.

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                    14 hours ago

                    I love unions. I just witnessed what the mobs did to unions first hand. Literally one of the mob families where I’m from started a corporation and now makes Ammo for the DoD. Wonder how they got that contract.

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        Dude I wouldn’t say dudes a good dude if he wasn’t. He helps black families in a region where the Klan used to run people out of the Appalachia’s. He employed hundreds of minority individuals and made many VP’s of his company before DEI was a thing. You just can’t accept that there are good people out there with money.

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          Dude I wouldn’t say dudes a good dude if he wasn’t

          Well, he is literally underpaying his workers because he knows he can get away with that due to their desperation, and his lifestyle is built upon immiseration of billions, and yet, you do claim that he is somehow good.

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          He helps black families in a region where the Klan used to run people out of the Appalachia’s. He employed hundreds of minority individuals and made many VP’s of his company before DEI was a thing

          You do realise that what you are saying is that he doesn’t even do the minimum of what the ruling class (which includes extremely rich people like him) is supposedly expected to do (provide people with employment, housing, healthcare, etc.) but that he is somehow good.
          Like, if this was the extent of a government’s effort, would that be acceptable? Why is this acceptable of the people who hold economies of the world in a chokehold?

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            I mean. When I was a teen. I was making more money working there than I made ten years after. He paid well for the region but it wasn’t a lot. Pennsylvania had a 3$ minimum wage at the time and he paid close to 10$/hr for entry level box stacking work. Many people made a good life working there.

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              When I was a teen. I was making more money working there than I made ten years after

              Okay, and?

              He paid well for the region but it wasn’t a lot

              So, he chose to not pay a lot because he could get away with it due to the conditions your community was already forced into. And?

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                14 hours ago

                Bud. He paid 3x the minimum wage at the time. That was a lot of money for the 90’s. Could have been much worse like all the Italian owned businesses I worked for that treated me like shit and abused me. Then I worked for a Jewish family and I never saw more crime in my life than I did working in their hotel resort. I saw a judge freaking out on his lawyer before he was arrested by the FBI for a Kids for Cash scheme. That resort was a criminal safe space.

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                  He paid 3x the minimum wage at the time

                  Cool. He paid more than the extremely low minimum wage (and still did not pay much). I too don’t do the absolute worst things that I might be allowed to do. Now what?

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                I wouldn’t say he under paid. He could have paid the minimum wage but he didn’t. He paid 2x to 3x that for entry level positions loading and emptying trucks. And the drivers were very well paid. With good benefits because my friends mother received good cancer treatment because of the HMO plan the business had in the old days. When other businesses provided little to no care back then. So would you say he under paid his employees if he was paying more than most businesses around?

                The one job I had 15 years later in the same town paid me 3$/hr to be a server and busboy. He was paying close to the teens way before it was the norm. But compared to what I make now. It’s nothing. But again families made a good living from working there. Until the mob burned down the warehouse.

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                  I wouldn’t say he under paid

                  You already did say that he did not pay a lot.

                  He could have paid the minimum wage but he didn’t

                  And I could have been assaulting random people, but I don’t do that. Heap laurels upon me now.

                  The one job I had 15 years later in the same town paid me 3$/hr to be a server and busboy

                  Going to note that you being paid so little is a consequence of extremely rich people like your friend existing as a class in your economy.

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                    14 hours ago

                    The people that paid me the worst were Jewish. So there’s that.