• And to cut costs of “deporting” people, they will use trains. And to make it less traumatic, they won’t be transferred to prisons, they’ll call them camps. But not just normal camps, camps where people can concentrate on becoming better citizens. What if we call them… idk… concentration camps?

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      Which means more 2A people need to start practicing.

      ICE agents shouldn’t get to go home at night.

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        Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? I assume it would escalate responses in general, but what happens to that person? Is martyrdom as much as they could hope for?

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          Yeah, they’re not gonna live to the next day, unless they get all of the agents.

          But they would be doing a net good to society.

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          Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down?

          The videos I’ve seen the ICE agents are in street clothes. They aren’t wearing uniforms, no badges, nothing to indicate they’re official agents at all.

          If these people show up at night, I’d say open fire. They look like any other gang member.

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            Also, what’s worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE?

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              100%. If I were American (I’m not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I’d definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending.

              In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first.

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          You would be put in prison, and the only hope of getting out is your revolution winning, taking power and absolving all the people who to action of their crimes.

          Think about it this way: The government is tyrannical, but they don’t see it that way. They don’t see your use of the 2nd amendment as “valid”, they see it as killing federal officials trying to do their job. Your only chance is change.

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          You would be labeled a terrorist, the ICE agents would become martyrs, and all future raids would be executed full SWAT style, with flashbangs, snipers, shoot to kill etc. They save a ton on deporting people, and get to straight up murder disidents in their home.

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            Trumps America is really incredible. People voted for this.

            Whenever you feel stupid like because you made a mistake or something, just remember that people voted for this, and then you don’t have to feel so stupid anymore.

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          Second Amendment, specifically the ones who have be very staunchly against government overreach (coincidentally, they’ve been largely conservative, and pro Fascist 47 - at least the loud online ones).

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      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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      And, they battle each case in court where people in the US are trying to get them back showing they were illegally kidnapped. So even when provided evidence they disappeared someone illegally, they are still fighting to keep them in one of these unregulated death camps.

      Due process is dead, ICE is now the Kings Guard sweeping up dissidents, minorities, and whoever else they/he want(s).

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        Due process is dead

        SCROTUS told the trump admin yesterday that due process needs to be followed. All 9 of them.

        Of course, SCROTUS didn’t say a word about the people who have already been deported, but I suppose it’s something…

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    If they are citizens it’s not “deportation”, it’s “abduction and human trafficking”

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    It’s to Eliminate political opponents and the press in the open. It’s how Putin does it and how Nazi Germany started out before moving on to other groups to eliminate. These are the Fascist States of America.

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      If there’s no due process for anyone they grab, then they weren’t planning to check if you were a citizen first anyway…

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    Shahid Bolsen had an interesting idea. That if they are going to allow people to buy US citizenship for 5 milli that US citizens should be able to sell their for the same price. A person could use the bread to repatriate in another country. 🤔

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    “I look forward to watching the sick terrorist thugs get 20 year jail sentences for what they are doing to Elon Musk and Tesla,” Trump wrote. “Perhaps they could serve them in the prisons of El Salvador, which have become so recently famous for such lovely conditions!”

    Notably, it’s for property crimes against President Musk.

    This piggy committed the worst crime possible against the US government, then would send citizens to a concentration camp for upsetting his owner.

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      “Deported” makes it sound too good, TBH. It’s “fight now or be sent to a death camp later.”

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    Cool. I guess there will be blood in the streets soon enough.

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      would be a shame if someone took a comically large mallet and bopped them really hard on the top of their heads so that they become a completely flat disc and they have to breathe in really deep and exhale while holding their noses to unflatten themselves

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      Arm up if you haven’t already, you can get practice at a firing range (they are all over the US), practice firearm discipline and safety. Know how to clean and maintain.

      And it doesn’t hurt to get some trump/maga gear because blending in is a powerful strategic option.

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        While this is important, remember that it is only a part of the skill sets people need to be familiar with. People should also train in more dynamic ways than just bench shooting. People should also get acquainted with small unit tactics as well as other core facets of modern combat such as drones, energetics, thermal, EW, Coms, and OPSEC.

        Also, remember that this will be asymertical, so a focus on Guerrilla/partisan tactics is key.

        Edit: Tor/onion is your friend.

        Edit 2: I forgot to mention a critical one:

        Get Medical Training.

        At the very least take CPR and First Aid classes. Stop The Bleed is also a good program. Many community colleges offer Emergency Medical Responder classes (which is a step in between First Aid and Emergency Medical Technician). Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC) is also an useful training.

        Medical Training is good to have in general and I think many of these trainings should be taught to everyone in school.

        Also, skills often atrophy quickly, so keep training and keep practicing.