I suppose it’s up to your defintion of ‘deciding factor’ but to think the US’s invasions of sovereign countries resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilians deaths over the past few decades and support for ongoing genocide isn’t tiping the scales is misguided at best
It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s
source? I’ve never seen reliable evidence(outside of easily disproven Zenz’s inventions) that China’s rights abuses match those committed by the US in Guantaumo, Abu Ghraib etc in severity
Facts(UN investigations, photo and video evidence, I can provide sources on request) show that the US has committed far worse rights abuses than china(sexual assault at Abu Ghraib, extreme torture at both and murder and Guantanamo and numerous black-sites, extraordinary rendition etc)
This proves my point about US cultural dominance distorting objective reality: despite facts showing the US committing far more severe human rights abuses you still believe China has committed worse because that is what media you consume portrays
No you didn’t, but you claimed that China has committed worse ones, I’m asking for evidence of that
China has had organ harvesting concentration camps for a while now.
source? and I don’t mean Falun gong cult members anecdotes laundered to western outlets through Adrian Zenz, actual hard evidence and investigation by neutral third parties or does that not exist?
The US has children getting killed working in abattoirs, and has more workplaces suicides than China Bureau of Labour source and don’t install counter measures
Yes the Taiwanese company Foxconn absolutely engaged in labour rights violations years ago before the Chinese government cracked down on them,
hence why they are planning to move factories to India where the BJP government is less likely to enforce(even its weak in comparison) labour regulations
Yes the Taiwanese company Foxconn absolutely engaged in labour rights violations years ago before the Chinese government cracked down on them,
hence why they are planning to move factories to India where the BJP government is less likely to enforce(even its weak in comparison) labour regulations
Ohh, first I recall hearing about the move to India, thanks for this.
That was a different user? I’m a different user too. I’m sorry you’re getting dogpiled but you should expect people to call you out when you say inflammatory false statements as a matter of fact.
Unfortunately I don’t think that person would ever be open to revaluating their preconceived worldview when presented with new facts, and are comforted by believing the ra-ra americana fairytale sold by Hollywood etc even if objective reality shows it to be false, I actually think they illustrates my point about cultural dominance from my first comment quite well
Being involved in a foreign conflict is pretty unlikely to be a deciding factor.
It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s, and we used to be good trading partners.
I suppose it’s up to your defintion of ‘deciding factor’ but to think the US’s invasions of sovereign countries resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilians deaths over the past few decades and support for ongoing genocide isn’t tiping the scales is misguided at best
source? I’ve never seen reliable evidence(outside of easily disproven Zenz’s inventions) that China’s rights abuses match those committed by the US in Guantaumo, Abu Ghraib etc in severity
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/29/abu-zubaydah-cia-torture-waterboarding-guantanamo
Oh shit, I didn’t see your instance. This is a pointless conversation.
So no source?
Facts(UN investigations, photo and video evidence, I can provide sources on request) show that the US has committed far worse rights abuses than china(sexual assault at Abu Ghraib, extreme torture at both and murder and Guantanamo and numerous black-sites, extraordinary rendition etc)
This proves my point about US cultural dominance distorting objective reality: despite facts showing the US committing far more severe human rights abuses you still believe China has committed worse because that is what media you consume portrays
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No you didn’t, but you claimed that China has committed worse ones, I’m asking for evidence of that
source? and I don’t mean Falun gong cult members anecdotes laundered to western outlets through Adrian Zenz, actual hard evidence and investigation by neutral third parties or does that not exist?
The US has children getting killed working in abattoirs, and has more workplaces suicides than China Bureau of Labour source and don’t install counter measures
The Guardian: ‘It’s all preventable’: tackling America’s workplace suicide epidemic
Yes the Taiwanese company Foxconn absolutely engaged in labour rights violations years ago before the Chinese government cracked down on them, hence why they are planning to move factories to India where the BJP government is less likely to enforce(even its weak in comparison) labour regulations
https://freedium.cfd/https://medium.com/@cailiansavage1/inside-the-myth-of-chinas-suicide-nets-7ae4b9d07015
funny how libs talk about the foxconn suicide nets as a chinese thing, but then they back down when they learn its a taiwanese company 😂
Ohh, first I recall hearing about the move to India, thanks for this.
China’s suicide rate is among the lowest on Earth, magnitudes lower than America
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When you know you’re wrong but you’re to stubborn to admit it.
Maybe too propagandized.
Stop harassing me
That was a different user? I’m a different user too. I’m sorry you’re getting dogpiled but you should expect people to call you out when you say inflammatory false statements as a matter of fact.
Incredibly soft
jfc stop evading, provide a source for your claims or admit you were wrong
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What did you say? don’t be an intellectual coward.
China is pretty bad, but I feel the US never gets called out for this, so he has a good point.
Unfortunately I don’t think that person would ever be open to revaluating their preconceived worldview when presented with new facts, and are comforted by believing the ra-ra americana fairytale sold by Hollywood etc even if objective reality shows it to be false, I actually think they illustrates my point about cultural dominance from my first comment quite well
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and you know this because the US told you so, and they wouldnt lie, would they?
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so you dont know it, you’re just asserting it. cool beans.
Source?
the US is always called out for this?
Do you people live in the sand lol
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Fascism is when you don’t unquestioningly accept baseless bloodlibel against your nations enemies
explain to me how Iraq invasion is a less worse human rights violation than whatever China has done?
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can you even read? lmao
Amazing real time motte and bailey.
Right but you’re saying that China’s rights abuses have been worse than the US’s, do you have any facts that support that position?
No, they’ve been worse: more people killed, more people imprisoned, more people abused, the US has been objectively worse.