The pig sees her, turns, aims, and shoots her almost point blank.

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    A good time to remind everybody that while rubber bullets are considered “non-lethal,” they can kill.

    Back in 2004 a college student in Boston died from a bullet that missed its intended target, hit the ground and ricocheted into her eye.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Victoria_Snelgrove

    So, while the shot certainly wasn’t warranted, IMO its worse because of what could have happened because this officer was taking a shot for fun.

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      “non-lethal” Oh, boy! What an infuriating misnomer that is.

      This is also a good time to remember nothing here in this context is “non-lethal”. All of these things (sand bags, tear gas, tasers, pepper spray, mace, rubber bullets, batons, shields, tactical holds, etc.) are accurately called “less lethal” because all of them can and will kill under certain circumstances, even when used by trained officers with good intentions. (I know. How often does that happen, right?) It doesn’t take much to cross that line between “not intending murder” and “actual fucking murder”, often something as simple as a common medical condition or simply falling while moving over hard ground like curbs and sidewalks. If a reporter is using the term “non-lethal” in the context of police brutality, that’s a pretty good sign that you are being lied to.

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      Almost all " non-lethal" munitions are really “less lethal” and capable of killing someone if they get hit in the wrong area. They also easily maim. I saw a pellet from what are called “donkey balls” which are essentially clay-more mines filled with little rubber pellets bounce off a wall fast enough to go through someone’s cheek and exit out the other side of his mouth. TLDR You can really fuck someone up with that stuff. Cops think they are like nerf toys.

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      That and the fact it’s directly attacking your civil rights to free speech and an unprovoked attack. So it’s definitely unconstitutional.

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    This will not be covered by the MSM.

    Imagine if a cop was rubber bulleted tho. It would be even more endless copaganda…

    What dat fascist culture do.

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    I want to tell all the centrists who acted like leftists were radical, dangerous people for the last 30 years in the US while treating violent, rightwing conservative ideology as if it was innocent and defenseless… to personally eat shit you naive idiots, leftists were trying to warn you about this moment in the US for decades, fucking DECADES and y’all still chose to listen to fascists over learning some basic things about leftist ideology. Even after violent rightwing fascists attempted a literal coup on Jan 6 y’all still wanted to be afraid of leftists more than rightwing mobs actually assaulting the U.S. capitol.

    Over the years I have wasted soo soo soooooo much breath talking to older boomer conservatives who believed themselves to be centrists or even democrats, and it was all a damn waste of time, these people have brainworms and admitting they have been living inside a bubble that popped late in their life interferes too much with their ego and sense of impending mortality (have I lived a life and learned worse than nothing about what the future will be???) for them to listen to kindness. Bypass these people and organize with people who understand, leave the naysayers I am criticizing behind and let them catch up once they realize how truly alone they are (with no younger people on their side from the conservative or leftist end of the spectrum).

    spits on the authoritarian, rightwing dictatorship at my feet

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      Unfortunately there are quite a few young people on their side. We’re going to have to address the amount of Gen Z support we saw for Trump in the last election.

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        it’s much wider than generations, it’s definitely race and gender mixed into this for sure. And just looking at the White House it’s spread across all generations being represented here.

        If you’re zeroing in on gen z: Lots of white boys who believe they and they alone are facing oppression and were brainwashed into thinking trans, ‘brown people’ and women deserve no rights.

        At least that’s how the influencer weight has been getting measured.

        Ps: Joe rogan is total fucking scum who caused all this shit.i hope he rots in hell if hell were a real place.

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        Meh, it is concerning but it is concerning in the sense that liberals and centrists won’t actually make an appeal to young people who are scared, all they will do is shame them for being lazy and sternly tell them their life is going to be MUCH harder than their parents so fall in line and get used to being screwed over and over and over again.

        Conservatives appeal to young people with fascism, but that is not a new thing, it isn’t a new thing for young people to be enticed by it either, what is new is the cynicism of older people towards younger people being terrified of their future. It is disgusting, it honestly makes me want to vomit my body has no other response to my “elders” spitting in the face of scared angry children who only see toxic strong men and empty talking heads as role models.

        Blame someone else other then Gen Z, I am sorry but I didn’t spend my whole life listening to boomers say “but what about McGovern! Fall in line stop complaining trust me I am older than you and have earned my cynicism, you will never win young people never vote” to then have the narrative instantaneously switch to “Gen Z has abandoned us for conservatives are voting now why are the kids evil now!?!?!”.

        I have been using the word “pathetic” a lot lately, but I will use it again here because nowhere else fits the usage of the word better, stop being pathetic and stand up for kids instead of concern trolling about what is going through their heads as they watch the world fall apart around them while all the kind adults are mostly in utter denial about it.

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      Look, you don’t understand. Biden didn’t use all the leverage he could with Israel, and was old. Democrats tried to give everyone healthcare… So obviously, “Both sides are exactly the same!” /s

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        Biden used zero leverage with Israel to the point that Israeli figures would openly brag about the US letting them do whatever they want.

        They aren’t the same, at all, one is the bad cop and the other plays good cop.

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    I think the provocation was her reporting facts. Can’t have that when most voters have chosen Trump.

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    If I recall correctly, the officer broke article 19 of the UDHR. I have a sneaking suspicion that that officer isn’t getting any reprecussions for their actions.

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      Much more likely he’ll get paid leave to deal with the “trauma” of the negative attention he’ll get.

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    It should also be noted that the term “rubber bullet” is exceedingly euphemistic.

    So-called ‘rubber bullets’ are huge and have been known to maim and blind people. These aren’t tiny little paintball rounds, folks.

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      Because most of them have a core of metal or other high density material and a softer exterior. It’s like wrapping a brick in a couple of layers of bubble wrap and hitting someone if the face with it.

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        No, more like wrapping metal in rubber, as you had described. No need to downplay it.

        It’s like getting the end of one of these lobbed at you:

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        Well, you have to have something heavy to hold enough inertia to have a deterring impact.

        How else are you supposed to suppress the growing second class citizenry? Communicate?

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        Yeah, in a different thread there were some drawings too.

        Until today, I imagined rubber projectile being something that’s just something fast but soft, perhaps something that even disintegrates on impact.

        Kind of like paintball.

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    2nd time Trump’s bullshit lead to an Australian reporter getting assaulted on air.

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      Which is one of the main reasons I pointed to when people would shout me down for sounding the alarm about the Palestinian Genocide “because it was an irrelevant to US politics”. The Palestinian Genocide is just a preview of our future, the signs are clear as day, our police trained HEAVILY with the IDF which is not really a functional military more like a police state apparatus.

      The IDF has no idea how to do an armored maneuver against a near-peer enemy that also has armor, AA and artillery, it only knows how to enclose people in literal and surveillance prisons and push “soldiers” to acclimate to killing innocent civilians.

      Not a war, a GENOCIDE.

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    Zero justification, not a stray bullet etc, he literally aims and shoots at the camera, what in the fuck is going on over their?

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    Saw that happen in live stream. These fascists don’t give a fuck. Got to wear giant lettered press sign here for real for your own protection

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    What’s IDF for non Americans?

    Otherwise, cops shooting at journalists is pretty worrisome.

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      Many US police departments have been training with the Israeli “Defense” Forces for years. They are bringing the tactics back home.

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        Not a joke.

        Critics of Israel’s military assaults on the Gaza Strip and its crackdown in the occupied West Bank point out that the LAPD has sent personnel to study and train with Israeli security forces accused of state-sanctioned violence against civilians in the two Palestinian territories.

        The Police Department’s ongoing relationship with Israeli forces — based on what officials have said is a shared goal of fighting extremism inside their borders — has come under scrutiny before, along with other international training efforts. The agency’s dealings with Israeli forces date back to at least the early 1980s, but ramped up after the 9/11 attacks as the LAPD sought to boost its counter-terrorism training.

        In 2002, the Washington advocacy group Jewish Institute for National Security of America sponsored an LAPD delegation’s weeklong trip to Israel, during which department officials visited police and military outposts and studied Israel’s border patrol operations in the Galilee region and the occupied West Bank. Around the same time, the department began sending bomb squad technicians to learn from their counterparts in Israel; at least one trip was paid for by an $18,000 donation from the Los Angeles Police Foundation, a nonprofit independent fundraising group.

        In the years since, high-ranking officials from L.A. and Israel have routinely traded delegations. But critics say that in light of the polarizing conflict in Gaza, the LAPD’s ongoing ties to Israeli forces threaten the department’s image of impartiality.

        https://archive.is/vh8fA

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    I mean, let’s not use charged language like ‘almost point blank’ when it clearly isn’t… to attempt to make it more provocative than it already is.

    This is already a blatantly obvious unwarranted attack on a reporter and the 1A. An attack on someone who isn’t even participating in the protests, just reporting. Who the officer clearly saw. This is assault (edit: or battery, depending on your legal definitions and the jurisdiction).

    But, ‘almost point blank’…? That’s like 20-30 yards there.

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      Point Blank: The distance between a gun and a target such that it requires minimal effort in aiming it. In particular no allowance needs to be made for effects of gravity, target movement or wind in aiming the projectile.

      You are correct, it wasn’t “almost point blank”, because it is absolutely point blank.

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      “20-30 yards”!? I’m assuming you’re in the US as well, so you should know yards better than that. But I’m not going to quibble over exact distance. He shot a reporter! Not in the midst of defending himself. He was standing, then raised his rifle, aimed, and deliberately fired on an uninvolved member of the media obviously covering the situation with a microphone. THAT’S the issue.

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        I’ll admit that before reading this comment thread I probably would have said that point blank is so close you could basically reach out and touch, or nearly touch, the target.

        I do hope, however, that I would look it up before contesting how it was used.

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          The technical term comes from archery. In archery, the arrow rises when fired, so when shooting at very close targets, you actualy aim lower than the point you want to hit. At distant targets, of course, you aim higher, because the arrow will start to fall.

          “Point Blank” is the distance at which you aim directly at the target. Last time I did any shooting, it was about 22 feet, with my bow and my arrows.

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      Judging by their relative sizes in the screengrab and with some quick back-of-the-envelope math, the cop shot her from about 5 meters away. That’s pretty fucking close to point blank, no?

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        Honestly I assumed that it was a lot closer than that too, by that definition since I have a 50-200yd zero on my rifle, that’d mean anything out to 200yd is technically “point blank” which kinda seems like not how the phrase is usually used.