• tfm@europe.pub
    12·
    1 day ago

    It wasn’t just the replacement of jobs but also a drop in quality. Same as we see with AI.

  • flamingos-cant@feddit.ukEnglish
    282·
    2 days ago

    The Luddites weren’t replaced either though? Factories still needed labour and much of what the Luddites were rallying against was the idea of being pressed into prison-like factory work. Much of how gen AI is being applied is to deskill workers so they can be exploited more in much the same way that machines like the power loom was used to deskill textile workers.

  • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    15·
    2 days ago

    I had always thought that the Luddites were anti-tech. I’m pretty sure that’s what I was taught, decades ago. I found this article an interesting read on the topic. Hmm. Learn something most days.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
      20·
      1 day ago

      Yeah, it was a very effective piece of propaganda to the point that Luddite is an insult now.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 day ago

      I don’t know if you “could” be “anti tech” back then, sure they destroyed the latest invention (those automated sewing machines) but as far as I have understood it was more a “we have this, we want to continue earning money with it” and less against progress.

      That have changed of course, and today Luddite is synonym to being against new technology.

      Which, in my opinion, isn’t much better. It feels like those conservatives (not the usa ones) who just not want to adapt for any reason.

  • toynbee@lemmy.world
    2·
    1 day ago

    Many years ago, I learned the word “Luddite” from a Terminator novel (also where I learned the name “Lenin”!). I can’t decide whether I feel this post supports or detracts from their use of it.

  • Madrigal@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2219·
    2 days ago

    Good lord. Someone on an anti-AI forum indicating a vague understanding of the issue rather than just screeching incoherently?

    Never thought I’d see it.

    • RandomVideos@programming.dev
      10·
      1 day ago

      There is no reason to add the “anti-AI”. Both sides of the argument have people who dont understand he topic and give terrible arguments.

      I have seen more misunderstanding and ignoring of arguments on the pro-AI side, but more insulting the other side on the anti-AI side

    • pemptago@lemmy.mlEnglish
      131·
      1 day ago

      Do you have something to add, or do you just want to take a cheap shot at people who are critical of a thing you like?

      Most people here have a better understanding of ai than ai consumers i know. I find this community to be anti ai, as big tech hype/marketing brand, not anti ai as a branch of programming that includes ML and efficient, well-scoped models.

      • Madrigal@lemmy.worldEnglish
        18·
        1 day ago

        There’s no room for rational discussion about AI on Lemmy. I learnt that one a while ago.

        And I never said I liked it. That’s just an assumption you’ve made, based on nothing.

        • pemptago@lemmy.mlEnglish
          71·
          23 hours ago

          based on nothing.

          Your first comment took a detour to follow a valid post with confirmation bias-led ad hominem. I think it was a safe assumption based on your defensiveness, but keep those blinders up.

          I often speak positively of specific ML and ai algorithms in this community, and I suspect the only downvotes I get are from ai fanboys who don’t like hearing their favorite chatbot is a grift led by billionaires.

          There’s no room for rational discussion about AI on Lemmy.

          Seems to contradict your first comment, but sure, we’re the irrational ones. We must be if we don’t like ai /s

          • Madrigal@lemmy.worldEnglish
            12·
            17 hours ago

            Nah. I once used AI to help refine a comment and make a meaningful contribution to a (non-AI) discussion. It was a valid use of a tool. I was honest and up front about it. But that didn’t matter. I got completely dogpiled by the entire community. They went as far as finding me and sending abusive messages on other platforms. Not one person even thought to address the actual point I was making on the OP.

            So yeah. That’s Lemmy on AI. Frankly, I’ve lost so much respect for the community here based on its feral mindset that even Reddit is starting to look appealing again.

            As for calling me a fanboy, part of my job involves AI governance. It’s my job to understand the limitations and the risks posed by the tech. To ensure it’s used legally and ethically. And to reign in over-enthusiastic execs. For the most part, I end up advocating for my company to not adopt AI tools.

            So you really couldn’t be further from the truth.

            Also…

            ad hominem

            the only downvotes I get are from ai fanboys who don’t like hearing their favorite chatbot is a grift led by billionaires

            LOL. Good one.