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LughMA to FuturologyEnglish · 1 year ago

“Corolla killer:” BYD launches $US15,000 sedan EV with 420 km range in direct attack on legacy makers

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“Corolla killer:” BYD launches $US15,000 sedan EV with 420 km range in direct attack on legacy makers

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LughMA to FuturologyEnglish · 1 year ago
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BYD has launched its low cost sedan in China which industry observers are calling the Corolla Killer.
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    If future means public subsidies, I’m all for it.

    Chinese EVs are cheaper because they are prepaid by Chinese tax payers. That also includes taxes levied from our internet purchases for products made in China.

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      The secret ingredient is crime slave labor.

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        Sent from my iphone.

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          No, the way this usually goes is that a Western firm will order parts from a company in China, which then subcontracts to a firm that uses slave labor. This obfuscation isn’t always easy to find out about, especially if you don’t have knowledgeable people on the ground.

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      We in the US would never provide a corporation with state aid!!!
      RHEEEE

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        Whataboutism isn’t an answer.

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          But restricting competition is?

          To benefit price gouging US companies?

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            They aren’t price gouging, they have to pay actual living wages, have higher energy costs (China uses almost entirely cheap coal) and can’t as easily use slave labor as Chinese automakers.

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              They aren’t price gouging

              I trust u bro

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                GM has negative margins on EVs:

                https://apnews.com/article/general-motors-path-to-electric-vehicle-profitability-bba3a9cbbd2aad0953cbc113e53d041c

                As does Ford:

                https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/23/ford-expects-ev-business-unit-to-lose-3b-this-year-hit-profitability-in-2026/?guccounter=1

                This takes seconds to research.

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                  yeah they are pricing gouging on trucks and SUVs while designing shiti products that’s expensive/hard to repair.

                  also tesla seems to be doing fine. GM should git gud.

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                    If you think the repairability of American cars is bad, you’re in for a rough awakening with Chinese cars.

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          Whatabout whataboutism about what

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      The whole industry lives off subsidies, regardless of the type or where they are manufactured.

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      Is there any evidence for this?

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        It’s very public knowledge. China doesn’t hide it.

        https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-announces-extension-purchase-tax-break-nevs-until-2027-2023-06-21/

        https://www.npr.org/2024/02/18/1225653773/china-electric-vehicles-byd-nio-geely-vw-europe

        https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-launches-anti-subsidy-investigation-into-chinese-electric-vehicles-2023-09-13/

        ETA: you’re right to ask for a source

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          Right but if they’re made in Mexico? Maybe?

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      Sounds like a good way to make cars more available and balancing the cost with the rich.

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      In a funny way this sounds like prescription drugs, cheaper for the world due to US tax payers.

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