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    They are the most caring and generous person I know

    So, they are nice to you and their friends, so that means it’s okay for them to get rich off of heinous exploitation of most of the world and colonialism. Got it.
    So very ‘charitable’. /s

    He never pays taxes because he donates all he can afford

    So, he uses the system set up for them to pay less in taxes than the people they exploit. And to use that system, they just pay to charities that are useless for anything other than their own PR and what is effectively legalised tax fraud.

    He rents homes at a loss for families

    Even if we are to believe this and that he is not immiserating his tenants, he still doesn’t live at a loss in general, meaning that he is making the rest of society poorer.
    And that’s even ignoring his relations to labour and to the means of production.

    He turns dilapidated schools into affordable elderly apartments

    So, he is destroying schools and children’s access to education so that some wealthy rich people could get yet more housing for themselves?

    You have not investigated these matters much.

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        Nope. They are kind to strangers and showed how to be a good person

        Okay, stop. You keep pretending as if being nice in personal interactions somehow overrides stuff like being a capitalist and living off of exploitation of billions.

        Always supportive of social programs

        Like destroying schools.

        Social programs under capitalism are a bandaid. Actual implementations of stuff like guaranteed housing require extremely rich people like him to not exist.

        They. Would help.

        Okay, how many homes have they given to the homeless for free and with no strings attached?

        He employed thousands of people in my dying coal region in storage warehousing

        And?

        Might not have paid super well but for the region

        So, he is extremely rich, and decides to underpay those people by utilising their desperation. And you say that this person is your friend.

        He would give homes to the churches of multiple denominations

        That’s bad. I hope you understand why giving homes to organisations that have a history of supporting and participating in colonialism, slavery, genocide, general infliction of harm to people, especially LGBT people, women, and non-white people because the fiction they believe in supposedly dictates so is bad.
        Going to note that he did not give those homes to the people who actually needed that.

        No the cities closed the schools because they out grew them

        ‘Outgrew’ them how? Did children stop being born there?

        Going to also note that you are yet to address how it is okay for him to live off of colonial and capitalist exploitation of billions.

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            He used his football skills to go to an Ivy League school

            HAHAHAHA.
            Why the f are football skills even valued for admissions to universities in the US? What relation do they have to academic efforts?
            Nonsensical society of bloodthirsty monsters.

            Also, not sure how that is relevant to this ‘friend’ of yours supposedly being good.

            He saw all these old industries collapsing. Bought their old buildings and turned them into a data storage company. Started with microfilm storage up to digital management in the 00’s

            Not seeing anything that would paint him in a good light here.

            Never really asked for much back

            ‘This rich person never asked for much back when raking up massive profits’.

            because he made a living in an honest way

            You are contradicting yourself. You just said that he owned companies, but now you are saying that he made a living ‘in an honest way’.

            He was a stand up dude

            You are contradicting yourself again. You previously said that he owned companies and used other people’s labour for his own gain.

            Dude persevered through that traged

            Ah yes, the ‘tragedy’ of becoming slightly less rich.

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                They destroyed all the fucking unions with their bullshit

                The entities most involved with union-busting are the extremely rich people like your friend and NATO states.

                They hollowed out the American voice of the worker

                I’m sorry, but this is extremely silly, especially considering that it is public knowledge that extremely rich people like your friend have always made union-busting efforts.

                If you ignore that part about America. You missed out what happened to the unions in America. Teamsters were transporting heroin for the mob

                HAHAHA.
                Not that I am a fan of your national chauvinist unions, but this accusation is extremely silly when extremely rich people like your friend have done stuff like use strike breakers.

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                    Hahaha.
                    Citation needed.

                    Not sure why you even decided to veer things into the union stuff, especially considering that unions are one of the few ways in which workers - like yourself, apparently, - can actually fight for their rights, and considering that the extremely rich people like your friend take effort to demonise and sabotage them.

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            Dude I wouldn’t say dudes a good dude if he wasn’t

            Well, he is literally underpaying his workers because he knows he can get away with that due to their desperation, and his lifestyle is built upon immiseration of billions, and yet, you do claim that he is somehow good.

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            He helps black families in a region where the Klan used to run people out of the Appalachia’s. He employed hundreds of minority individuals and made many VP’s of his company before DEI was a thing

            You do realise that what you are saying is that he doesn’t even do the minimum of what the ruling class (which includes extremely rich people like him) is supposedly expected to do (provide people with employment, housing, healthcare, etc.) but that he is somehow good.
            Like, if this was the extent of a government’s effort, would that be acceptable? Why is this acceptable of the people who hold economies of the world in a chokehold?

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                When I was a teen. I was making more money working there than I made ten years after

                Okay, and?

                He paid well for the region but it wasn’t a lot

                So, he chose to not pay a lot because he could get away with it due to the conditions your community was already forced into. And?

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                    I wouldn’t say he under paid

                    You already did say that he did not pay a lot.

                    He could have paid the minimum wage but he didn’t

                    And I could have been assaulting random people, but I don’t do that. Heap laurels upon me now.

                    The one job I had 15 years later in the same town paid me 3$/hr to be a server and busboy

                    Going to note that you being paid so little is a consequence of extremely rich people like your friend existing as a class in your economy.

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                    He paid 3x the minimum wage at the time

                    Cool. He paid more than the extremely low minimum wage (and still did not pay much). I too don’t do the absolute worst things that I might be allowed to do. Now what?