Hi comrades,

I wanted to bring to your attention my caucus’ (springs of red roses) resolution: R136 - Towards an anti-zionist, partyist, political rank and file strategy. This resolution affirms DSA’s commitment to doing the hard work of organizing workers not only on economic ground, but political grounds by setting up SIOC for DSA union officers and a standard process for endorsing E-board candidates, with industrial coordination and criteria for anti-zionism.

This kind of coordination and discipline is neccesary to take on the billionaire class and construct our preferred future: democratic socialism.

Thank you for your consideration, and as always - solidarity

  • Euergetes [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    30·
    15 小时前

    I do self-criticism constantly because I’m trapped in a Maoist cult where comrades (white terrorists) criticize me mercilessly for having a fascist credit card (VISA Silver Signature Rewards)

    They won’t let me order vegan pizza anymore because the phone is fascist and “summoning my pizza slaves with a bourgeois app" is “bad vibes”

  • heresiarch [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    29·
    17 小时前

    “What is socialism?” (thread full of polite responses + one insane guy writing 5 paragraphs denouncing Marxist-Leninism)

    “Moving Towards a Theory of Mass Politics with Socialism at Its Heart and Praxis at Its Soul” (link to the most boring caucus article that has been written yet)

    “Has anybody seen this?” (link to article about some bullshit happening in the poster’s city with no other text. 0 replies.)

    “FUCK this zohran guy OH MY GOD” (thread closed after 506 replies in two days)

  • Carl [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    15 小时前

    “Hey guys, because of the government shutdown my paycheck has been delayed, but my Camaro payment (from my time in the military) is due in three days! Are there any mutual aid orgs for car payments?”

  • blunder [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    361·
    18 小时前

    DSA is the only thing near me that is left of Adolf Hitler and reading this constant gleeful hatred on this site just makes me tired and feel like shit. I am aware that they are flawed, I do not agree with everything they say and do, but they do good things in my community and they are the only people I know IRL saying the word “socialist” and not meaning it as a slur, what the fuck do you want me to do? Can I not just accept their good parts and object to the bad? Am I welcome on this site?

    • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      10 小时前

      Big difference between “I joined the DSA because it’s the only thing in my area that could even charitably be called left” and “I joined the DSA because I’m left but I’m not one of those authoritarian tankies,” and while I can’t speak for anyone else here, I get the impression it’s the latter type of person they’re aiming at.

    • Sebrof [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      33·
      18 小时前

      [Unironic, not doing a bit]: Sometimes you have to exist with the contradictions (i.e. tensions, opposing forces, etc.). There are contradictions within the membership of even ML parties that have to be handled carefully. If DSA is the only group that exists around you then it is better to join (and perhaps be a good radical influence on others ;) ) than to do nothing. There are Marxist caucuses too in the DSA. And maybe as more Marxist parties emerge in your area you can get plugged into them, and you aren’t starting from zero when you do.

      Engaging in the world and doing actual practice will do good for further radicalizing yourself and others. Be sure to bring theory back to what you’re doing too, to contextualize it and think through stategy, but engaging in the world is what will drive those contradictions within DSA members to a point where they have to change and adapt to the realities of the world, or they will be left in the marsh.

      1.) It’s an error to throw out all groups or people because they aren’t perfect Marxsists or whatev. You can’t avoid contradictions within our class, especially in the imperial core. Some people have shit opinions but they also will have some good ones too. People arent completelt one or the other. These tensions have to be worked through. So we all have to engage with people who may have lib takes. But not all contradictions need be antagonistic. It’s an error to make enemies of all people with bad takes. And not all antagonistic contradictions may stay antagonistic, but also vice versa so watch out!

      2.) It is also an error to ignore contradictions and to pretend they don’t have an impact. Contradictions and tensions continue to evolve and hence change how the group behaves and responds to politics. There may be a point where these contradictions within the DSA make them completely unworkable. But I am not claiming that is the case with DSA at the moment.

      **So I think it’s better to join than to do nothing. ** Engagement, even imperfect, leads to change and will change you and your org. You can’t ignore contradictions and you also can’t wish them away, just keep in mind that those tensions/imperfections/contradictions will continue to grow, change, and impact how the org evolves. Your own inner contradictions will also change you, too.

      Working within that liminal space is a skill, but all of life is liminal anyway so it’s good to get used to maneuvering it. Maybe make some principals for yourself when things get weird: Don’t do wrecker shit to other good orgs, don’t support chauvinistic or imperialist policies, etc, etc…

      meow-hug

    • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      15 小时前

      I guarantee you half the posters on this site have never been a part of an org, probably never will be, and likely gets anxiety over even imagining doing so; so rest assured you being in the DSA is not a negative at all lol.

      • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        16·
        18 小时前

        Communist caucus are awful anarcho communists whose founders argued with me that Indigenous people don’t deserve support from socialist because we didn’t do settler colonialism, which is over now, and everyone is equally exploited so we need to organize around that instead of giving special attention to Indigenous communities

        Red Star is a better recommendation

      • blunder [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        191·
        18 小时前

        This is what I do and I hate being treated like a lib for it here, I question how some people on this site are able to achieve actual real world organizing with tangible outputs without engaging at all with DSA.

        Now if you’ll excuse me I must touch-grass and come back in a better mood

    • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      18 小时前

      I agree with what everyone else said about joining if it’s the only option but if you aren’t prepared to be a part of DSA and criticize their flaws and push them to improve, all DSA will do is make you more like their worst elements instead of you being a part of improving the organization

    • MizuTama [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      12·
      18 小时前

      [Bitless] Don’t take it seriously, at least from the responses I’ve seen at least a few people taking the piss have to be a member of DSA with how some of this mimics the forum-posting. Also, DSA varies pretty heavy chapter by chapter and anything is better than nothing. Besides, any US org is going to have piss-takes here, DSA just gets the most shit since it has a vocal socdem component.

      Also you’re American, there is a decent third-worldist contingent that is going to treat you as a lib by default regardless of org affiliations so no use stressing about it.

    • PowerLurker [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      17 小时前

      as someone in a different org with a very different structure and theory of change & as someone who is very critical of the DSA, if it’s the only thing near you you should definitely stay active, it’s 1000% better than doing nothing or just posting (but then, i repeat myself (ha ha)). idt it’s ever been polled or anything but i’m fairly confident the good majority of people on hexbear haven’t ever organized, at least not seriously. hostility on the internet is often a libidinal outlet for people’s feelings of powerlessness - i hope my own participation in the electoralism dust-ups didn’t cross into that realm, and if they did i apologize.

      if this site is getting to you too badly then yeah just step away for a bit and logout. idk the internet sucks, it’s inherently alienated and antisocial terrain and hexbear is only somewhat better than the rest and it has its major problems. like for example almost posted a cringe & relitigating metapost but i’m just gonna leave it at that, take a break when you need to and try not to take a fundamentally flawed format for community too seriously.

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      18 小时前

      reading this constant gleeful hatred on this site just makes me tired and feel like shit.

      Well, ain’t that truth about any online forum site like this, especially under the background of bad news

      I am aware that they are flawed, I do not agree with everything they say and do, but they do good things in my community and they are the only people I know IRL saying the word “socialist” and not meaning it as a slur, what the fuck do you want me to do? Can I not just accept their good parts and object to the bad? Am I welcome on this site?

      Yes - and you could also block this post because tbh, it gets exhausting hearing shit like this all the time.

      • blunder [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        7·
        18 小时前

        Holy shit I can hide a post thank you I appreciate you

        Now to logout for a while bc clearly I am in my feelings on the internet

  • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    16 小时前

    So when our delegation arrives in Laos we should hand out our English copies of Macroeconomics to everyone we see, and then the meeting with the international friendship committee will be a great opportunity to lecture them on why pursuing outdated Marxism-Leninism is just losing them votes and convince them to adopt the Modern monetary theory

    And don’t forget we’re there to help

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]@hexbear.netMEnglish
    36·
    19 小时前

    Hello,

    My caucus will be traveling to Cuba soon. What are some things we can scold them about? I was thinking about bringing up their authoritarianism, and lack of democracy ™. What else can we lecture them about?

    • MizuTama [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      21·
      19 小时前

      My caucus will be traveling to Cuba soon

      How many of you tankies are in DSA??? Of course we shouldn’t support a regime change however it doesn’t change the fact that they are an example of the authoritarian left (even if I wouldn’t quite call it a dictatorship), and we should distinguish ourselves by not giving de-facto support of their government.

      • ufcwthrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        16·
        19 小时前

        Hi comrade,

        I just want to remind you of our community guidelines! While we have a diversity of views on nominally socialist countries like Cuba, words like “tankie” are uncomradely and could make the space more hostile for our anti-imperialist comrades. Can I encourage you to use phrases like “second campist” or “anti-inperialist?”

        Best! And as always - solidarity

        • MizuTama [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
          5·
          19 小时前

          Apologies comrade. While we may have our disagreements I shouldn’t resort to insults and our diversity of thought is one of our biggest strengths even if we don’t always agree.

          To rephrase my thoughts, I think we all must engage in a principled anti-imperialist stance, especially against regime changes. However, we must also distinguish that we are for democratic socialism. I must also acknowledge though, it is important to show solidarity with the people of the country, particularly against the sanctions and other illegal measures taken by the U.S. in attempts to force a regime change.

          The complexity of the situation is not ideal for anyone, so I appreciate the reminder to be more civil with fellow socialists.

    • ufcwthrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      10·
      19 小时前

      Hi comrade,

      You seem new, and thats fantastic! I want to start by saying, hi and welcome to the movement. I encourage you to check out your chapters active campaigns and working groups. Many hands make light work 😄

      Im so glad you joined reform and Revolution! Caucuses are great vehicles for political development. Just a little note on wording, here in DSA we have a commitment to a culture of comraderie, so instead of scold, try a kinder phrase like “bold intervention into the IC.”

      You sound really fired up about this issue, can I convince you to participate in DSA national’s International Committee?

      Cheers! And, as always - solidarity ❤️

    • mayakovsky [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7·
      18 小时前

      My group will be meeting with opposition groups throughout the week. We will also be joining a protest against the government the day before we leave. Please let me know if you’d like to join us.

  • Chana [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    11·
    16 小时前

    Why does DSA let all this authoritarianism and terrorist sympathy? Those are BAD THINGS okay??? We need socialism to fix our healthcare system and environment, not to celebrate dictators and violence! These people are worse than the right because at least they self-label correctly!

    Instead of listening these dangeroua tankie lies, please volunteer for the Zohran Mamdani campaign here.

  • godlessworm [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    13·
    17 小时前

    hey comrades. im a democratic socialist of the bernie sanders variety. my girlfriend is a maoist and she says im actually a “social fascist”. i guess that makes sense, i do consider myself very fashionable for a socialist.

    is there anything i can do as a fashionable socialist to help usher in the nordic model in the states? my dad is a hedge fund manager if that helps

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    19 小时前

    Hi, my name is Mike, I’m new to the DSA. Looking to get involved with the community and empowering the working class, after a tough break up. Can’t wait to get to know my fellow comrades, hoping to meet some interesting people. I’m really, really into feminism and would love to work with some DSA members on women’s causes.

    • ufcwthrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      17·
      19 小时前

      Hi Mike!

      Unfortunately, our chapter disbanded our feminist working group due to inactivity and folded it into our queer socialist working group, maybe hit up Nix and Flowers to see how you could plug in there?

      Great to meet you! And as always - solidarity

    • ufcwthrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      11·
      19 小时前

      Hi comrade,

      Those are the awards we give to our most dedicated canvassers! After all your fundraising drives the org. It takes socialist cash to take out the capitalist trash! As we always say. BTW, are those the glasses from “They Live?” I love that movie!

      • ufcwthrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        2·
        15 小时前

        Its frankly shameful that national decided not to endorse Lee Gilbert in Des Moines after arguing that his campaign was “unwinnable” because his fundraising plan was “idk, ask my mom if she’ll pay me to mow the lawn.” We need to be contesting every seat from dogcatcher up and I’m sick of the so called “dsa left” sabotaging that effort with their purity tests on Palestine.