Looking for:
- no misogynists (so dbzer0 is out)
- no libertarians, no marxist lenninsts, no tankies, no rightwingers
- people who understand climate change is real
- leftists including anarchists, social democrats, democratic socialists, communists, etc are great
I picked world bc I was told it would have the most activity. Since joining Lemmy I have been repeatedly harassed by men on this instance, threatened with murder and rape by users including open Nazis (this was also happening on Reddit), and permabanned for being a woman, for being a feminist, and for not breaking any rules and posting factual news sources. Would like a better instance.
Have been considering solarpunk Lemmy but willing to consider other instances, just not sure
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no marxist lenninsts, no tankies
Lemmy’s devs are tankies. Why not pick an instance of piefed instead?
Beep.
I’m gonna keep it real with you. You’re going to see the same problems no matter which instance you end up on.
I have no idea who you are, and I don’t care. However, purely looking at your account history and modlog, you seem like a generally unpleasant person. You come off as someone who picks fights and can’t take criticism. The way you act is rude, hostile, and annoying. You also seem to be into some weird conspiracies, which makes you look unhinged. That’s probably why you keep getting banned. You’re not being banned for being a woman or a feminist, but because you break a lot of rules, at least according to the modlog.
My point is that it doesn’t matter which instance or platform you go to. You’re the common denominator. Obviously, that doesn’t mean people should harass you, but it does mean you’re at least partly responsible for how people interact with you. Lemmy is usually a chill place if you avoid politics, and even then, most people are nice as long as you’re civil. From what I see people are just treating you the way you treat them, so there’s a good chance that your problems might follow you on a new instance.
Lol no.
It’s amazing, men will do ANYTHING but admit misogyny, even while our government is being actively taken over by misogynists taking away bodily autonomy, the right to divorce, charges for beating your spouse, being able to vote, etc etc. These are all real policy proposals by my government in the last year. And you want to claim that the misogyny is all in my head - a misogynist thing to think and say. The rape threats aren’t in my head, and aren’t being said to men.
I am on other forums, I exist irl, and have been for decades - the issues I see are due to sexism here. That is my experience as a woman. It has also gotten worse as 5th gen warfare has gotten worse (esp since 2016). You don’t need to argue, insult me, or make up alternative theories - this is due to sexism. Period.
If you don’t get this, then you are a misogynist too.
I didn’t ask for your opinions on any of this, and your opinions are dogshit anyway. I asked what instance I might like. If you don’t know, go away.
Case in point lmao
…ditto
Way to immediately prove their point
They actually proved mine first.
Communists, but not Marxist-Leninists
Lol, wtf. Is this another case of seeking that fabled communism that sounds suspiciously like social democracy and is not consistent with any real world communist party’s platform?
No. It is because while I like Marx myself and have read Das Kapital, most online ML are:
- heavily involved in online 5th gen warfare and infiltrated with spies and bad faith actors that actively advocate for things that harm society and erode civil rights
- therefore the term ML and tankie tends to have been taken over by bad faith actors and it is hard to find real people in the noise
- sometimes authoritarian and not actually communist anyway
So while I may miss out on some cool people by excluding those spaces, if I look for OTHER leftist terms the 5th gen warfare slaves aren’t as aware of or into, then I can avoid them more and avoid their brainrot and concentrate on factual info and things that help me.
It’s also why I call myself an abolitionist first (when abolitionism and socialism/communism are the same thing), because there’s no way the current slave empires being grown will bring attention to their slavery by astroterfing THAT term. In fact, you can often get bots to abruptly block you or delete their comments (when normally they engage constantly on everything) by asking them if they are a slave. On Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Telegram, Tumblr, everywhere I’ve tried this line (“NPR says bots like ypu are slaves. Are you a slave? Do you need help?”) on people that I suspect are bots/slaves, I’ve gotten blocked and they deleted their comments. And I first learned bots are usually slaves in big slave networks from an NPR Planet Money episode.
You can easily identify the 5th gen warfare terms btw by seeing repeated phrases or stances and asking those people/bots the slave question - if they block and delete, it is digital warfare of some kind.
And as always, I can give sources, but only ask if you actually want to read them. Shit is effortful af, that’s part of why I’m leaving here for a place where people have a hopefully higher level of civil rights knowledge.
Oh and last, I include social democrats because they tend to be educated in how the government works and in organizing, and a lot of older people ended up and social democrats due to McCarthyism. They tend to still be a little rad and worth making community with even if I really don’t agree on everything. These are your local librarians and science teachers who are very amicable to discussion etc.
Hey, how’s dbzer0 sexist???
Shocked at your experience on Lemmy honestly. Particularly perma banned for being a woman?
Solarpunk is good.
OK so decided to check the modlog. You’ve been banned from 5 different comms on 4 different instances by 5 different mods.
- One for name calling and personal attacks.
- One for trolling.
- One for being generally unpleasant.
- One says many many rule violations.
- One says Repeated misinformation.
On comms like casual UK and tumblr.
You have two removed posts, one posting us news where it isnt allowed. One being ‘not news’, which is arguable.
And so many removed comments that I can’t even go through it all. Having read a couple they seem fair. I’m sure theres some unfair ones amongst them.
But your behaviour is very reddit like. Please understand that this place is run by the money and effort of the individuals who you are often attacking, the admins. People here also prefer to be chill and not combative unless there’s extreme right wingers. Mild petty internet disagreements are not worth being uncivil about.
You are of course more than welcome here as your heart is clearly in the right place but please understand that people here just want a chill space to be in.
Edit: and this is one of 5 accounts!
“Lol you aren’t evil, you are just weak minded and unable to perform empathy at an adult level. Asking you to do so created a tantrum. Yes, you are a gender narcissist as I’ve explained. You are sexist, quite transparently. I won’t go away, I have a right to exist here. You can leave if you want, since you have nothing substantial to add. I’d also bite your dick off to watch you writhe so you might want to keep the sweety comment to yourself. I’m not that sweet, professionally so.”
I’m not even looking for bad ones, this is just right upfront. The whole conversation is a mess, not just you.
But both sets of comments were removed not just yours.
Won’t someone please think of the poor misogynists? Waa. All they are doing is destroying society and killing and enslaving women
Go ahead, post what he wrote to me.
“He does. One is an executive of neuralink. Elon and other billionaires literally want to kill everyone and start their own super human race. They are starting a civil war.”
I despise elon but wouldn’t complain if this was removed for being misinformation.
It’s literally true (there’s already a civil war starting to kick off the in US literally right now with the military invading Chicago and Portland and Trump contemplating the insurrection act), and I can give news sources for it. Look up Dark Enlightenment.
https://cascadeinstitute.org/dark-enlightenment/
https://time.com/7269166/dark-enlightenment-history-essay/
https://www.ft.com/content/02217acf-ac64-49c2-acd5-ef4f107f014c
Just because you all are not politically informed on even BASIC BASIC stuff, doesn’t mean I am wrong.
Elon sieg heil’d on stage. They genuinely want to solve the climate crisis by killing people, enslaving people, and having their own families that they view as a super race (NOT MY VIEWS, obviously there is no such thing) be protected and in power. They’re building bunkers. They’re collapsing democracies. They are pushing disease like measles and Chaga’s and removing healthcare and food safety. It’s genuinely what is happening. All the same actions a hostile nation would do during war, is what the wealthy have done to the world’s people in the last year.
Damn, she got exposed lmao. You’re doing the lord’s work be sharing this with the community, thank you.
Wasn’t my goal honestly. 🤷♂️
Exposed for things I openly talked about in my first comment? Doing the lord’s work for not putting the comments I was responding to? Enlightened centrism supporting the status quo of the patriarchy once again, and women better shut up and get in line, huh?
https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
Per the mod that banned me, that is not why I was banned for some of those.
The “US news” was about Elon Musk, a man from South Africa, interfering in global elections worldwide. They claimed it was US only but it wasn’t.
And I am proud to give personal attacks to misogynists, fascists, racists, child predators, and all the other dirtbags on here. That I am trying to avoid future conflict by changing instances is seemingly lost on you - yeah, when people defend themselves and stand up to abusers and the status quo, that creates waves and conflict. That is how we got human rights. I don’t respect attitudes like yours.
I do not have 5 accounts. I have this account.
WE THE COMMUNITY make the rules for general behavior, and I will NOT be compliant to the HORRIBLE SHIT I see on Lemmy constantly.
If db0 is weirdly sexist, I’ll gladly leave this place. I’m 100% a feminist. But I’m not seeing any evidence of this.
OP thinks any reaction to them flipping their shit instantly and constantly is aimed at their gender, instead of them flipping their shit instantly and constantly.
This, see below, he says they have a screengrab of my comments.
Please understand completely that misogyny IS gender fascism. I do not give a FUCK about being palatable to ANY fascists. Have you smelled the blood of a woman giving birth? Do you understand what that kind of slavery is like? Do you understand what has been at stake for your mother and every woman for months? Or are you blind and numb to it because it doesn’t involve you?
This sexist rhetoric online and elsewhere has been an issue since Gamergate, it’s pusged by massive 5tth gen warfare networks with MINIMAL pushback, and women were told to pipe down and it’s the boys club - and now abortion rights have been taken away and they are seriously trying to take away the right to vote, the right to divorce, the right to beat and rape your wife (spousal rape was still legal in the 90s). Me insulting people like this is like me insulting blatant genocidal Nazis - which I’ve also done and received raoe and death threats for… because they are all fascists.
Some of us have to stand for something and say something. The reason they squirm and complain is because it works.
Recommended documentaries (trigger warning):
- It’s A Girl (infanticide)
- Half the Sky (graphic sexism, sexual abuse)
- Whore’s Glory (graphic sexual abuse)
- Bleeding Edge (medical)
- Hot Coffee (medical)
- Diagnosis (medical)
- How to Die in Oregon (assisted suicide)
https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
Yes, being a feminist was not okay in the early days here. Afaik I was the only person that was openly a woman or feminist for several months when I first joined.
https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
If you look at the second link, a user told me they proudly laugh at me and have pics of my comments as their banner - because I am angry that Project 2025 is killing women, enslaving women, and taking away our rights, and men seemingly do not give a fuck at all. In fact they complain about lack of sex and intimacy and gaslight women telling us to calm down, or to fuck rightwing men to calm them down and get them on our sides (you have holes, use yours). I will never join that instance if that is considered okay behavior.
I think I really need a ELI5 about those instances. Like, I thought the instance doesn’t matter, since I can see comments from users outside of lemmy.world? I feel so dumb. lol
Some instances have different policies of conduct. Lemmy.world is a pretty general instance, so it won’t really impact most people.
After another user’s comment, I really don’t think I understand it myself lol
you should try just not not engaging in political discussions then. you seem to be very outgoing with it, which will attract people with opposing views leading you further down the defence route.
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stay away from political
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stay off social media
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deal with it and/or block them.
you’re literally asking for a safe haven from the world, on the world wide web…that won’t exist, or it’ll be an echo chamber.
also, stop insulting people constantly and perhaps they won’t insult/belittle you back… take the high road.
and because I truly don’t care, I’m blocking you to avoid further back and forth nonsense which I assume you’ll want to start/continue based on a LOT of your comments.
hope you find that small corner of only like minded people…
No thanks, silence does not benefit me, it benefits my oppressors.
Everything in life is political. A woman who can read and write is political. Being silenced is political. Seeking likeminded people is political. Perhaps you need MORE political education if you think you can step away from it or think that political advocacy is bad.
I’m not asking for “a safe haven from the world,” I am asking to be around people who understand concepts hashed out in the 70s like basic civil rights. Like the basics of feminism. Or, like the other day, why consent matters. That’s right, I had a convo on here about consent mattering. It wasn’t even my first conversation on Lemmy trying to explain the importance of consent. That’s not a thing feminists struggle with, that’s a thing patriachy (which makes rapists) struggles with.
It’s like saying “hey, I am with all these people who like math but addition only, and are forcing the world to be addition only, and I can do other types of math like matrices and vector calculus. I am tired of arguing with people about why 2+2+2 is equivalent to 2x3. I want to find other people who can do higher level math.” Except these people dont understand civil rights instead of math, which means they are being ABUSIVE AND SHITTY TO ME AND ADVOCATING FOR ME TO BE A SLAVE AS A WOMAN.
Probably the reason you blocked me is that you don’t see a problem with this. You think, like many enlightened centrists and men who refuse to learn basic feminism, that I am “just as bad” as the misogynists who are actively usurped my country and my rights. And you don’t want to respond to this. This is also why YOUR preferred solution is my silence, instead of trying to make Lemmy a better place or call in men you see who talk like this, or even help me with a basic request to avoid instances that are full of men like you.
Further, I only insult second when they open that door by insulting first- I am just better at it and meaner than them. Calling someone what they are - a misogynist, narcissist, fascist, etc isn’t an insult. It is what they are and why we came up with those words. Calling someone a small dicked weasel because I know as a misogynist they are bad in bed and insecure about their dick is weaponizing the patriarchy against them, is mirroring, and is a valid way to get shitty men to change their minds.
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Blahaj zone is lovely
Come to piefed
Id go with blahaj based on your comment history.
lemmy.blahaj.zone seems nice, though i’m on pawb.social and haven’t had any issues.
also, blahaj.zoje has a piefed instance as well, im fairly sure.
I don’t understand the concern over which instance you are on. We’re all interacting with people on different instances, so what would even change?
If you are banned you loss all the communites you follow you have to start from zero
Because a lot of people and instances block World entirely
Very few do that.
Well, I was in a thread I enjoyed the other day with people I liked, and the majority of them said they block .world because the users are horrible. They were from a lot of different instances and I wasn’t sure which ones were good from just quickly looking, and I couldn’t ask them afaik because they have the entire instance blocked and the users from that instance (ie me), so I made this thread. So perhaps those who do it are just blissfully happy elsewhere and you aren’t aware of it.
Yeah people may choose as individuals to block it, but it’s not instance-level blocked by most instances - that’s what I mean.
Okay, then I misunderstood what people were saying, or perhaps they just meant they aren’t federate with it? But then I wouldnt have seen their comments? Not sure, probably missing something or just misunderstood
They mean that a lot of users might go into their settings to block lemmy.world for themselves.
If you want a more-politically-censored environment, I guess you could try beehaw.org. They tend to enforce positivity and restrict some political stuff and are into creating a “safe space”.
We want to explicitly make a nice little corner of the internet where we can hide from racist, sexist, ableist, colonialist, homophobic, transphobic, and other forms of hateful speech. We want a space where people encourage each other, are nice to each other, are supportive and exploratory and playful.
It’s not really what I’m looking for in a home instance, and there’s a limited amount of activity there, but I’ll give that they seem to have a userbase that seems less suicidally-depressed than some other home instances on the Threadiverse. Note that they have defederated from lemmy.world, as they don’t feel that it fits with their policies, so you’ll have more-limited access to content than on most home instances. Also, I remember seeing that they were considering moving to some non-Lemmy platform (Pleroma? Can’t remember), so if you specifically want Lemmy, that might not work for you if they do such a move.
EDIT: If you take your requirements literally, I think that you’re going to have a hard time finding an existing instance that will fulfill all of them. Beehaw.org might be closer, but it’s just not going to get you that far. Like, you said that you want an instance with no libertarians. I lean right-libertarian, so any instance that I could use would already be violating your requirements. I think that such an instance would probably need to require users to up-front state their political views at registration time so that that information would be available, disallow users with banned political views from access, and only federate with a small, whitelisted set of instances. The closest thing to that, where I think you have admin-level policing of political views, is probably on the tankie-oriented instances, and you’ve also said that you object to tankies.
You could set up an instance yourself and only federate with a carefully-curated set of instances that have similar instance and federation rules. But that’s also going to obviously seriously limit the content available. Maybe hit !newcommunities@lemmy.world and try to promote it to any like-minded users.
I don’t actually care about censoring like that, I think most communities, if they speak up enough individually, create their own culture that is self enforcing as new people learn their roles. This is supported ny how users on different subreddits will adopt different cultures automatically without even knowing the rules. In the earlier days, this was when mods would simply DM you or comment to you to ask you to change your comment and explain why. There was a lot more grace and gentle enforcement/explanations rather than strict bans or complete removals, which helped cultire form as a lot of times mods would help with word choice.
Funny enough, reminds me of an adhd subreddit where the rule was that you couldn’t use the word “you” at all, because people with ADHD often have demand hypersensitivity triggered by the use of “you.” And no exceptions allowed because that’s confusing for English 2nd language speakers. They were always demanding edits lol
Even without all that, most people can pick up on culture just by the reactions of the users.
I am just looking for a space that has attracted like, queer anarchist scientists who like to talk also about politics, philosophy, economics, and understand trading stocks and how marketing and the news moves stocks. It’s a simple request (jk)
As others have said, Solarpunk and Blahaj both seem like good options for you. You may want to consider their piefed instances, if that’s something you are interested in.
Thank you for your time, appreciate it
When has dbzer0 been misogynist? /gen.
I don’t think we’ll get an answer here, but I’ll be happy to call out that shitheel who’s a raging sexist because they were born with different equipment. Sexism is awful shit.
See my other comment itt
