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- technology@lemmy.world
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- technology@lemmy.world
- technology@lemmit.online
Humans now share the web equally with bots, according to a major new report – as some fear that the internet is dying.
In recent months, the so-called “dead internet theory” has gained new popularity. It suggests that much of the content online is in fact automatically generated, and that the number of humans on the web is dwindling in comparison with bot accounts.
Now a new report from cyber security company Imperva suggests that it is increasingly becoming true. Nearly half, 49.6 per cent, of all internet traffic came from bots last year, its “Bad Bot Report” indicates.
That is up 2 per cent in comparison with last year, and is the highest number ever seen since the report began in 2013.
In some countries, the picture is worse. In Ireland, 71 per cent of internet traffic is automated, it said.
Some of that rise is the result of the adoption of generative artificial intelligence and large language models. Companies that build those systems use bots scrape the internet and gather data that can then be used to train them.
Some of those bots are becoming increasingly sophisticated, Imperva warned. More and more of them come from residential internet connections, which makes them look more legitimate.
“Automated bots will soon surpass the proportion of internet traffic coming from humans, changing the way that organizations approach building and protecting their websites and applications,” said Nanhi Singh, general manager for application security at Imperva. “As more AI-enabled tools are introduced, bots will become omnipresent.”
The widespread use of bots has already caused problems for online services such as X, formerly known as Twitter. Popular posts on the site are now hit by a huge number of comments from accounts advertising pornography, and the company appears to be struggling to limit them.
Recently, its owner Elon Musk said that the site would start charging users to send posts and interact with others. That was the only way of stopping the proliferation of automated accounts, he said.
But X is far from the only site to be hit by automated content that is posing as real. Many similar posts are spreading across Facebook and TikTok, for instance.
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That’s why I prefer smaller communities. Like, not lemmy-small, I mean actual small. 10-15 people. Haven’t seen any bots in those.
I read recently about the “Dark Forest Internet” theory where people are doing exactly what you’re talking about; retreating to small groups on Discord, email chains, texts, shit like that because the wider public Internet has become a bot/propaganda hellscape. I know it’s become more common for me also.
“Splinternet” and “cyber-Balkanisation / internet Balkanisation” are some other terms for it, for anyone else wanting to read into it!
It’s definitely more common for me, too. There’s a greater sense of community, and it just feels more personal and less hostile than most of the wider internet does. Smaller groups are much more able to hold each other accountable and self-moderate, too.
It’s also how the internet/web started out, before giant social media/advertising platforms started rounding people up.
For my part, I never completely checked out of those smaller communities, so I’m glad they’re there. It’s so nice being able to log on after work to the private forum of people I’ve known over two decades, have some convos, share some news, read some news, maybe a little debate… but ultimately have that core of mutual respect and familiarity to keep people from strawmanning eachother.
Like I find myself getting my hackles up on lemmy sometimes. Have to remind myself that this is a community, and unless someone is being willfully obtuse, then to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I think small internet groups have existed for a long time and will always do in different forms, for example they moved from Skype to Whatsapp or equivalents.
My new hobby in 2034 is going to be making irl friends, getting in thier private group chat, and then replacing myself with a bot. They’ll never see it coming.
Good to plan out ahead. Don’t want to rush into it
I’ve yet to see a bot. Where are they? I want to meet one like a monkey at the zoo.
The right reddit comment section is inundated with them. Oftentimes itll be a exact title repost with a huge number of exact comment copy bots.
Back on Reddit it stopped being surprising in big threads for a bot to reply to me with an almost word for word copy of a comment I made elsewhere in the thread…
And I only said “almost” because for some reason it wouldn’t do the full comment. Sometimes even ending in the middle of a
I wonder what percentage of these bots actually add content to the internet though
I can believe 50% of traffic is bots, I can’t believe any more than 5-10% of that is not just running exploit scripts, scrapers or very simple engagement farming (e.g. load page, press like).
I might have the wrong impression, but “Bot” in average Joe’s vocabulary seems to imply this kind of astroturfing (often not actually a bot) or spambot type of bot, not any kind of non-human request like how Imperva are (correctly) using it.
When you consider how much traffic goes towards the larger sites, it’s actually believable. Even before the great migration Reddit was infested with reposter bots whose sole purpose was to farm karma in order to later sell the accounts. Those bots have gotten more sophisticated now, replicating not only original posts but entire comment threads. That’s not new content, but it’s content nevertheless, especially in the context of the dead Internet theory. Yes, it’s engagement farming, but that engagement is getting more sophisticated, both to trick the user (to drive engagement) as well as to trick the server (to prevent getting blocked).
This is a very insidious problem, because it means that such bots can and will be abused by threat actors (both internal and external) to drive popular sentiment in certain directions. We know how susceptible a generation that only watched cable news became, imagine what such campaigns can do to internet generations - if you can generate content that supports your rhetoric faster than humans but without appearing fake, then you can drown out dissident speech. Brigading is bad already, and it will get worse.
When you consider how much traffic goes towards the larger sites
I think what I said still applies tbh, though I’m absolutely not disagreeing with you that the ~10% creating content isn’t getting much more sophisticated at a potentially alarming rate.
But as someone who has experience working as an engineer on some of the biggest sites on the internet—the sheer volume of basic scraper and exploit scanner traffic that sites get is truly staggering in some cases.
the sheer volume of basic scraper and exploit scanner traffic that sites get is truly staggering in some cases.
Oh yes, absolutely. I’ve seen sites with millions of legitimate active users where we just dropped 98% of traffic because it’s all malicious, either exploit scanners or just plain DDoS attempts. Going back to your earlier comment,
I might have the wrong impression, but “Bot” in average Joe’s vocabulary seems to imply this kind of astroturfing (often not actually a bot) or spambot type of bot, not any kind of non-human request like how Imperva are (correctly) using it.
On paper, any kind of automated traffic, be it DDoS, scanners, or automated content generation is bot activity. What is happening now though is that while consumptive bot activity is steady (because the field is already saturated), generative bot activity is skyrocketing. What it means for humans is that it turns media consumption from walking through an orchard and ignoring the rotten fruit to wading through a lake of shit and finding half-edible scraps. And I harbor no illusion that it wasn’t bad before LLMs - even years ago I remember resetting the filters on my Reddit client and the feed getting inundated with ragebait, porn, and all sorts of low quality content. But when I had my filters they were effective, and that is becoming less so these days.
It’s way past “like bots” but it wasn’t always nefarious.
The nefarious ones were good and hard to pick out. The majority were very shitty and obvious bots that individuals ran just to see how well it would work.
The thing is, some of those bots were set up with no end date, and the maker just kind of forgets about them. So we get a large percentage of them.
If Lemmy every gets big enough, we’ll have the same problem here.
Yeah this headline is incredibly misleading. “Humans share the Internet equally with bots” at least heavily implies that 50% of content is created by bots, which is obviously not (yet?) the case.
At least read the copy/pasted text in the post body.
I did - the headline is still misleading. Headlines aren’t supposed to be misleading, the article itself being clear doesn’t change that.
Oh no.
Anyways
Bots, no matter how useful, should be banned from the internet. I don’t care if mods are lazy.
Bro a web server is a bot that only responds to incoming requests
You talking about banning the whole internet
That’s ignoring what we as a collective imply with the word “bot” and as a whole we all know that “bot” refers to generative content from a machine posing as a human when used in this context.
That’s not the context the parent used the term in either
How difficult would this be to enforce though?
I think the crux of the problem is how do you get a better-than-captcha system. An interesting, but probably not a fix-all way proposed in the past was to require every email to use a large number of computations, basically making spam/mass emailing too costly to send. It would be super interesting to see a community based on this concept, IMO.
