Microsoft really wants people to move to Windows 11.
    • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
      224·
      6 days ago

      Hmm, but did they say the last version of Windows, or the last version of Windows you’re going to buy? And if it’s the latter, is the upgrade to Windows 11 free? If yes, then technically it’s still correct.

        • LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.orgEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          Thank goodness the clouds parted and his holy billionaire visage emerged with the gift of [*angelic chorus] vaccines otherwise we would all be dead now (and he wouldn’t have made a 20 to 1 return on investment). Thank god for billionaires and their unquestionable wisdom.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        I mean, that was back when if you wanted a home computer, you were building it yourself from parts from Radio Shack. Not exactly the same thing. I’m not certain that even Apple had the Apple 1 out at that point. I know they hadn’t made the Mac 128k, and weren’t going to for several years.

        I haven’t ever met anyone that thought Bill Gates was prescient, just a lucky businessman.

        • Laser@feddit.orgEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          The joke being that he didn’t actually say it, same as Microsoft never stating 10 being the last version of Windows ever

    • M0oP0o@mander.xyzEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      I 'member.

      Twas Dickity 14 or so, and I plan to make good on Microsofts words.

    • K4mpfie@feddit.orgEnglish
      41·
      6 days ago

      They never actually said this. Some MS Engineer did and the press ran with it.

      • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
        101·
        6 days ago

        And even that engineer only said “last” to mean “latest”, which is obvious from context, but why let that get in the way of clickbaity articles.

        • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
          41·
          6 days ago

          It happens a lot by german talking people. Latest and last are the same word here

          • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
            6·
            6 days ago

            He was asked what they are working on now that they released Windows 10. He said they are still working on Windows 10 as it’s the last (latest) release of Windows and still being developed. Yes he could have worded it better.

    • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      6 days ago

      Better yet: you don’t have to pay Microsoft at all to make the switch!

      • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        6 days ago

        I’m really surprised they haven’t managed to push Azure Linux into the fold. Release a desktop version, Find some way to make attractive for all those Windows 10 people ready to walk away. Then just slowly fold all the bullshit back in. They could even bring the gui completely Windows 10esque

        • InnerScientist@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          6 days ago

          The problem with that would be that it would make switching to another linux ditribution very, very easy. They would have 99.99% compatibility so a lot of people would switch to another distro if they add stuff like recall.

          They would also be opening the can of worms that is massive software support for linux (which is arguably already opening.)

  • peopleproblems@lemmy.worldEnglish
    394·
    7 days ago

    Wait. They want me to pay for something I already paid for?

    Well guess my $2.5k new windowless machine is looking better everyday.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        7 days ago

        Oh yeah. Windows XP Professional 64 bit. Each “upgrade” used the same license and never really got screwy until 10. Won’t go to 11.

        Edit: Actually I don’t think I even paid for that, I think it was an OEM license my dad got from his work.

      • Krauerking@lemy.lolEnglish
        21·
        6 days ago

        You know what’s shocking? I did. I ruined my desktop trying to set it up with some web server functions and wiping it somehow got rid of the license.

        And so I paid to get rid of the watermark… boo!

        There you go one last scary story for the season.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        See below: I started my machine off with an XP Professional 64bit license (I didn’t personally buy) in like 2006?

        Because I kept the key for… Oh god 18 years, I always had the windows Pro versions. Windows 7 64 pro, Windows 8.1 Pro, and Windows 10 Pro.

        • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
          11·
          6 days ago

          What are you complaining about then?

          They supported your hardware for 18 years even when it was only meant to be for a single OS version and now people still had the option of upgrading but the hardware is just too goddamn old. I’m not defending Microsoft I also think the requirements are too high for 11, but expecting even more from your key is just ridiculous.

    • kava@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      6 days ago

      it’s pretty dangerous not to be getting security updates. probably for regular users won’t be a big deal. i have a feeling really bad vulnerabilities will be patched even if you don’t pay for it just out of a potential PR issue. but i would almost definitely pay this if I were a business who didn’t plan on switching to Win 11 soon

      on a personal level i don’t understand why anyone continues to use windows these days

      • JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        6 days ago

        For what I do, there’s very low risk of anything happening. As for why use it at all. I hate dealing with linux bullshit and mac is intolerably locked down. Windows for better or worse is still the middle ground.

        • kava@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          6 days ago

          there was a vulernability on the iphone a while back where someone would send you a specific hindu character and it would crash the OS. it can get you no matter what you do really, use or business. the difference is a business has a lot more to lose.

          as for the OS talk…

          I use MacOS on my macbook & Linux on my desktop at home. I don’t think Mac is intolerably locked down. I have virtually the same experience on both. Mac is a very smooth experience once you set it up how you like. I have the same command line applications, the same config files, the same firefox profile that gets synced in between them, same unix utilities that share folders/files as if they were native, can ssh from one to the other, etc

          including windows in that would be a PITA

          windows is clunky and the company pushing it is becoming progressively more hostile to its users. apple is greedy but at least with their OS it’s not pushy. it’s the hardware where they stick the knife and twist in terms of price

  • dan@upvote.auEnglish
    112·
    6 days ago

    Extended updates always cost money, and this is pretty cheap relative to extended support for previous versions of Windows. I don’t understand why it’s newsworthy?

    Windows 10 is nearly ten years old.

  • bbuez@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    6 days ago

    In a way, isn’t this just saying windows 11 is not ready as a replacement? Because fuck me my work laptop drives me nutty, IT hasn’t locked down all the popups and I can’t fix it withut IT…

    • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
      12·
      6 days ago

      In a way, isn’t this just saying windows 11 is not ready as a replacement?

      No, Microsoft has offered paid extended support for afaik all other windows versions at least as far back as XP.

      There is always something that can’t be upgraded because it’s running some obscure software or something. At work we are unfortunately running a single Windows Server 2003 server because it’s running some software that’s absolutely critical and apparently can’t be upgraded (I should test that though).

      Pretty much every hardware or software company in at least IT offers (often really expensive) extended support for old stuff.

      It’s just the way of things. It isn’t an admission that Win 11 Is bad of any kind

      • Bottabottabotta@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        6 days ago

        Man, I would love a follow up on that critical app. When I started in IT we had a sole dev that kept telling IT things couldn’t be updated and I guess they never challenged him. One day I got sick of trying to downgrade to 32 bit windows and moving pc’s around to for the growing needs of the company while one guy dictated everything has to stay old and shitty. Found out that alot of stuff he claimed could work only on 32 bit windows or server 2003, just needed to be tried on windows 10 or server 2016 and it was fine.

        • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          6 days ago

          I started at the company during the summer so I haven’t been around long but my colleague has worked there for over 10 years and my former colleague worked there for 20 years. So I think that they are probably right.

          The software is also something from the past that not a lot of people use anymore. Unfortunately I can’t say what it is because people could figure out where I work very easily if I did, I believe it’s from the 80s. My company is also the company that has used this kind of system for the longest time in the world.

          Fun fact: I just searched up the software/system and I found out on Wikipedia that another company in the same industry had to reverse engineer and replace the entire system because it was just too old, and hard to maintain.

          With that said, some of the servers the software uses runs at least on 2012 and 2016. I haven’t checked but if it’s a VM, I should absolutely just try and replace it and see what happens.

  • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    6 days ago

    “Please you monsters, just pay, our children are getting older, and it’s time they moved out and bought their OWN islands off Seattle!”

  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    101·
    6 days ago

    Counteroffer - spend that $30 on a drink and turn them down. Just keep on using windows 10 and clog up their support tickets _

  • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1911·
    7 days ago

    This is like people complaining about how Ubuntu 16.04 LTS support ended not long ago (2021-04-29)

    Or macOS 10.9 Mavericks (2016-12-01)

    Or Android 6.0 (2018-08-01)

    Or Debian 8 “Jessie” (2018-06-17)

    Or Linux Mint 17 (2019-07-01)

    Or Fedora 23 (2016-12-20)

    Or Slackware 14.1 (2024-01-01)

    Of all of these, not even Slackware comes close to how long Microsoft has supported Windows 10 post release (2015)

    • Feyd@programming.devEnglish
      30·
      7 days ago

      To my knowledge upgrading to the newer release of any of those linux distros was not blocked by having only slightly old and perfectly serviceable hardware.

      • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
        29·
        7 days ago

        You do migrate to newer versions of those ossses with new de and backend lib versions, and all the breaking changes that entails which means spending another week chasing down broken stuff and learning how different things work now.

        Which is about the same